Can real numbers and infinity coexist in all number systems?

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The discussion centers on the operations involving infinity in different number systems. It emphasizes that in the standard real number system, infinity is not considered a real number, thus prohibiting operations like multiplication or exponentiation with infinity. However, in alternative number systems, such as the extended real number line, these operations can be defined and may yield meaningful results. The conversation highlights the need to specify which number system is being referenced when discussing infinity. Overall, the compatibility of infinity with various mathematical operations depends on the chosen number system.
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Is correct to state that:

##x \infty = \text{sgn}(x) \infty##

##\infty^x = \infty^{\text{sgn}(x)}##

?
 
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If you are talking about the "usual" real number system, the are NO "operations with infinity" because "infinity" is not a real number. And there are several different ways to create number systems which include "infinity" as a number. Which are you talking about?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
If you are talking about the "usual" real number system, the are NO "operations with infinity" because "infinity" is not a real number. And there are several different ways to create number systems which include "infinity" as a number. Which are you talking about?

Your answer complicated more the things... look, exp(-∞) = 0, exp(0) = 1, exp(∞) = ∞... appears make sense make operation with ∞...
 
Not with the usual real number system, they don't- except a short hand for limits.
(Not "exp(0)= 1". I have no problem with that and I don't know why you included it here.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
(Not "exp(0)= 1". I have no problem with that and I don't know why you included it here.)

For shows that infinity acts like a number...
 
Jhenrique said:
Your answer complicated more the things... look, exp(-∞) = 0, exp(0) = 1, exp(∞) = ∞... appears make sense make operation with ∞...

They make sense in some number systems equipped with infinity, but not in others. For example, on the affine real line, the above operations are true, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line
But on the projective real line, they are false: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_projective_line
There are many other systems which allow an infinity and where the above might make sense or not, so you need to specify.


Jhenrique said:
For shows that infinity acts like a number...

I don't see what ##e^0 = 1## has to do with infinity.

And infinity is certainly not a real number. It might act like on in some ways, but not in others.
 
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micromass said:
They make sense in some number systems equipped with infinity, but not in others. For example, on the affine real line, the above operations are true, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line
But on the projective real line, they are false: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_projective_line
There are many other systems which allow an infinity and where the above might make sense or not, so you need to specify.




I don't see what ##e^0 = 1## has to do with infinity.

And infinity is certainly not a real number. It might act like on in some ways, but not in others.

Hummm, you have more links about this subject?
 

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