Optima Battery Charging: Solar vs Trickle

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of maintaining the charge of a red top Optima battery in a truck that is not frequently driven. Participants explore the effectiveness of using a solar charger versus a trickle charger, and how to measure the current draw from the truck's accessories to determine the appropriate charging solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the solar charger does not provide sufficient charge to maintain the battery and seeks a method to measure the required charge using a multimeter.
  • Another participant suggests disconnecting the battery to measure the current draw from the truck's accessories, estimating the solar charger provides about 100mA under optimal conditions.
  • A different participant questions the continuous current draw, suggesting it may be high for a truck and proposes checking if the solar panel draws current at night without a series diode.
  • There is a suggestion to consider a larger solar panel or running a wire from the house to charge the battery, along with a note about connecting to the truck's electrics via the trailer power outlet.
  • One participant proposes using an ammeter to measure current draw while keeping the battery connected to preserve memory settings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of solar chargers versus trickle chargers, and there is no consensus on the best approach to maintain the battery charge. Multiple competing views remain regarding the current draw and charging solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential limitations in measuring current draw and the effectiveness of solar chargers, including assumptions about the solar charger's output and the truck's electrical consumption.

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I have a red top optima battery like this in my truck:
http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_products/redtop/specs.php"
I don't drive this truck very often so it looses power after a while. I'd prefer not to disconnect my battery and loose the memory in various electronics. so i bought a small solar charger like this:
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...x-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&um=1"

It does not provide a sufficient charge to keep the battery alive.
Is there a way i can measure/calculate (hopefully just with a multimeter) how much charge i need to keep my battery fully charged? I was thinking using some kind of calculation based on the voltage drop over a 24 hour period?

If i only need two or three of these chargers then i might stick with the solar charger idea. If not, then i would have to resort to a trickle charger that plugs into the house. This would not be preferable since i don't park near the house.
 
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You'll have to disconnect the battery to measure the current that the accessories are requiring (use dc amp scale on your multimeter). Your charger appears to provide about 100mA (not much) at 12volts, on a good sunny day I imagine.

So if your accessories are using more that 100mA, you'll need more solar cells.
 
That charger looks very small. If it did deliver 100 mA as Digoff estimates (and a fair guess) it might only average 20 mA over 24 hours allowing for no charging at night and not much in the morning or evening.

Even so, a continuous current draw of 20 mA seems high for a truck. Maybe the truck battery is getting a bit lossy.

The solar panel can draw current itself at night if it doesn't come with a series diode. This can be checked by applying an external 12 volts and measuring the current (if any) into the solar panel while it is in total darkness. If there is any current, a diode should be fitted.

If you found you did need more charging current, maybe you could get a single much bigger solar panel and mount it on a post near where you park the truck. This would be better than a lot of small chargers which would be difficult to connect effectively.
Or you could run a wire from the house to a charging point near the truck and charge from a power source in the house. It could be quite small wire as the voltage and current are low.

You might be able to connect to the truck electrics via the trailer power outlet at the rear of the truck, depending whether this was switched.
Just don't drive away with the wires connected.
 
With the key off, you could connect a ammeter before disconnecting the battery terminal. This way, the memory stays intact.
 

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