Optimizing Projectile Motion: Strategies for Navigating a River with a Boat

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The discussion revolves around optimizing projectile motion and analyzing the motion of a boat across a river with a current. Participants explore the implications of speed, direction, and acceleration in both scenarios, focusing on the physics principles involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of a right triangle to analyze the boat's motion and question the validity of using different units in calculations. They also explore projectile motion statements, debating the time it takes for projectiles to reach the ground based on their initial conditions.

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Some participants have offered insights into the boat's maximum speed and its implications for crossing the river. Others have clarified the interpretation of projectile motion statements, with some expressing confusion about specific questions and seeking further explanation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a noted lack of consensus on certain interpretations of the physics involved.

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A river is 0.76 km wide. The banks are straight and parallel. The current is 4.0 km/h and is parallel to the banks. A boat has a maximum speed of 3.0 km/h in still water. The pilot of the boat wishes to go on a straight line from A to B, where AB is perpendicular to the banks. What should the pilot do?

a-Take none of these actions.
b-Head 22° upstream from the line AB.
c-Give up-the trip from A to B since it is not possible with this boat.
d-Head directly across the river.
e-Head 68° upstream from the line AB.

What I did:
Since I know it forms a right triangle where
angle theta is unknown
4km/h is the adjacent and .76km is the opposite

so I did inverse tan 4/.76 and got 79 degrees.
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Which of the following statements are true? (Select all that apply and ignore any effects due to air resistance.)

a-When a projectile is fired horizontally from a certain height, it has a higher speed upon reaching the ground than does an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

b-None of these statements are true.

c-When a projectile is fired from a certain height at an upward angle, it takes longer to reach the ground than does an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

d-When a projectile is fired horizontally, it takes the same amount of time to reach the ground as an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

I chose C & D but it was wrong.
I chose C because if shot in an upward, it takes extra time to reach its highest point where velocity is 0, then from there is the same as dropping from rest.

I chose D because the only acceleration is from gravity so it would take the same amount of time to reach the ground.

Am I wrong?
 
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ff4930 said:
A river is 0.76 km wide. The banks are straight and parallel. The current is 4.0 km/h and is parallel to the banks. A boat has a maximum speed of 3.0 km/h in still water. The pilot of the boat wishes to go on a straight line from A to B, where AB is perpendicular to the banks. What should the pilot do?

a-Take none of these actions.
b-Head 22° upstream from the line AB.
c-Give up-the trip from A to B since it is not possible with this boat.
d-Head directly across the river.
e-Head 68° upstream from the line AB.

What I did:
Since I know it forms a right triangle where
angle theta is unknown
4km/h is the adjacent and .76km is the opposite

No, those values don't have the same units (km/h vs. km). So it doesn't make sense to use them to draw a triangle.

Draw the triangle using the given velocities pointing in the appropriate directions.

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Which of the following statements are true? (Select all that apply and ignore any effects due to air resistance.)

a-When a projectile is fired horizontally from a certain height, it has a higher speed upon reaching the ground than does an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

b-None of these statements are true.

c-When a projectile is fired from a certain height at an upward angle, it takes longer to reach the ground than does an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

d-When a projectile is fired horizontally, it takes the same amount of time to reach the ground as an identical projectile dropped from rest from the same height.

I chose C & D but it was wrong.
I chose C because if shot in an upward, it takes extra time to reach its highest point where velocity is 0, then from there is the same as dropping from rest.

I chose D because the only acceleration is from gravity so it would take the same amount of time to reach the ground.

Am I wrong?

C & D are correct, as you have reasoned out. That makes B false.

Now think about whether A is true or false.
 
oh wow, thanks for pointing it out, I feel so dumb hahah.
Boat cannot make it if max. speed is 3km/h.
and for number 2- after thinking, A is correct.

Thanks for your help.

I have another question where it is half done.On a carousel a person has an acceleration of magnitude of 0.86 m/s2 when she is standing 4.3 m from the axis.
(a) What is the period of the person on the carousel?
14.2s
(b) What is the speed of the person on the carousel?
1.9m/s
(c) What are her acceleration magnitude and the speed if she then moves to a distance of 2 m from the carousel center and the carousel keeps rotating with the same period?

acceleration magnitude
speed

Ive used the acceleration formula A = v^2/R and Period formula 2piR/T for questions A and B

I don't understand Question C. Can someone explain?
 
Can someone please help, I got half of this, but I don't get what the 2nd part of question asks. If she moves to a distance 2m from the carousel center meaning raidus is 6.3? I tried the same formula but didn't work.
 
Hi ff4930,

ff4930 said:
Can someone please help, I got half of this, but I don't get what the 2nd part of question asks. If she moves to a distance 2m from the carousel center meaning raidus is 6.3? I tried the same formula but didn't work.

It reads to me like she is moving to a position that is 2m from the carousel center, not that she is moving an additional 2m away. She was 4.3m from the axis, now she has moved so that she is 2m from the axis.
 
Hi, thanks for replying, I seem to get it.
2/4.3 * acc
2/4.3 * 1.9

thank you!
 

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