Order of acidity for oxoacids of P: H3PO4 > H3PO3 > H3PO2

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The discussion revolves around the order of acidity for the oxoacids of phosphorus: H3PO4, H3PO3, and H3PO2. Participants explore theoretical reasoning and rules related to acidity, as well as the implications of structural features on acidity.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that H3PO4 is the most acidic due to its higher basicity and the greater number of replaceable H+ ions.
  • Another participant mentions a rule regarding acid strength and the amount of oxygen in the molecule.
  • A different participant questions the applicability of the oxygen rule, arguing that the presence of only one doubly bonded oxygen to phosphorus limits the ability to compare acidity based on that rule.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake and suggests checking Ka values for a more accurate assessment of acidity.
  • A later reply indicates that the found Ka values suggest an opposite order of acidity compared to the original post, highlighting a need for theoretical reasoning in the absence of provided values for an exam.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the order of acidity and the rules governing it, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of Ka values in the exam context, which may limit the ability to reach a consensus on the order of acidity based on empirical data.

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Homework Statement



What is the order of acidity of H3PO3, H3PO2 and H3PO4?

The Attempt at a Solution



H3PO4 must be most acidic because its basicity is highest. Greater the no. of repleacable H+, greater will be its acidity. On similar reasoning, H3PO2 is least acidic.

Is it right?
 
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There is a rule about acid strength and amount of oxygen in the molecule.
 
I guess you are talking about the withdrawing effect of Oxygens.
There is only one Oxygen doubly bonded to Phosphorus which withdraws electron density of the O-H group facilitating the release of H+. Since there is only one such O in every molecule given, I don't think we can compare based on that rule. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Good point, my mistake.

Safest approach it to check tables for Ka values.
 
I googled their Ka values and to my surprise, found that the acidity order is opposite to that I mentioned in O.P.

Unfortunately these values are not given in my exam and I need an answer theoretically ( I am not so good at by-hearting things :biggrin:)
 

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