Oscillating Spring Block System inside elevator

In summary, a particle suspended from a spring oscillates with an angular frequency of 2 rad/s. When the spring is suspended from the ceiling of an elevator car and the car is moving at a constant speed, the total force on the mass is zero. When the elevator suddenly stops, the mass starts stretching the spring and oscillates with an amplitude of 0.75 m. The equation of motion for the particle is d2x/dt2 = -(k/m)x = -ω2x, with a solution of x(t) = Acos(ωt + φ). The characteristic frequency of the spring-mass system is 2 rad/s, and the particle will oscillate with this frequency once the elevator has stopped.
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A particle that hangs from a spring oscillates with an angular frequency of 2 rad/s. The spring is suspended from the ceiling of an elevator car and hangs motionless (relative to the car) as the car descends at a constant speed of 1.5 m/s. The car then suddenly stops. Neglect the mass of the spring.
(a) With what amplitude does the particle oscillate?
(b) What is the equation of motion for the particle? (Choose the upward direction to be positive.)

Solution:
(a) When traveling in the elevator at constant speed, the total force on the mass is zero. The force exerted by the spring is equal in magnitude to the gravitational force on the mass, the spring has the equilibrium length of a vertical spring. When the elevator suddenly stops, the end of the spring attached to the ceiling stops. The mass, however has momentum, p = mv, and therefore starts stretching the spring. It moves through the equilibrium position of the vertical spring with its maximum velocity vmax = 1.5 m/s.
Its velocity as a function of time is v(t) = -ωAsin(ωt + φ).
Since vmax = ωA and ω = 2/s, the amplitude of the amplitude of the oscillations is A = 0.75 m.
(b) The equation of motion for the particle is d2x/dt2 = -(k/m)x = -ω2x. Its solution is
x(t) = Acos(ωt + φ) = (0.75 m)cos((2/s)t + φ).
If we choose the t = 0 to be the time the elevator stops and let the upward direction be positive, then x(0) = 0, and v(0) = -1.5 m/s. We therefore need φ to be π/2.Issues:
Can someone explain that when the elevator hasn't stopped, is the block executing SHM inside the elevator? If yes, then how can the force equal its weight when both of them are pointing downwards (that would be when the block is going upwards). If not, then what force are we talking about here?
 
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andyrk said:
Can someone explain that when the elevator hasn't stopped, is the block executing SHM inside the elevator?
This should answer your question: (my emphasis)
andyrk said:
A particle that hangs from a spring oscillates with an angular frequency of 2 rad/s. The spring is suspended from the ceiling of an elevator car and hangs motionless (relative to the car)
 
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I didn't get a single thing of what you said.
 
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Can something motionless be performing oscillations?
 
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If it can't be performing oscillations then what does it have an angular frequency for?
 
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All spring mass systems have a characteristic frequency. This is the frequency it would oscillate with if it was oscillating and it is the frequency it will oscillate with once the elevator has stopped.
 
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks, its all clear now. :D
 
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If an elevator supported by a cable is stopped quickly, it may oscillate up and down. can someone explain?
 
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Fcuys said:
If an elevator supported by a cable is stopped quickly, it may oscillate up and down. can someone explain?
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1. What is an oscillating spring block system inside an elevator?

An oscillating spring block system inside an elevator is a mechanical system that consists of a spring attached to a block that is placed inside an elevator. When the elevator moves, the block oscillates due to the changing forces acting on it, causing the spring to stretch and compress.

2. What is the purpose of an oscillating spring block system in an elevator?

The purpose of an oscillating spring block system in an elevator is to reduce the impact of sudden movements on the elevator and its occupants. The spring absorbs some of the energy from the movement, reducing the force and making the ride smoother.

3. How does an oscillating spring block system work?

An oscillating spring block system works by using the principle of oscillation, where the block attached to the spring moves back and forth due to the changing forces acting on it. The spring acts as a medium to store and release energy, reducing the impact of sudden movements on the elevator.

4. Are there any safety concerns with an oscillating spring block system in an elevator?

There are no major safety concerns with an oscillating spring block system in an elevator. However, regular maintenance and inspection of the system are necessary to ensure that it is functioning properly and to prevent any potential malfunctions.

5. Can an oscillating spring block system be used in all types of elevators?

Yes, an oscillating spring block system can be used in all types of elevators, including hydraulic, traction, and pneumatic elevators. It is a common feature in modern elevators and is designed to improve the overall ride experience and safety for occupants.

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