Oscillations of Spring with Viscous Medium

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The discussion focuses on the oscillation of a spring with a spring constant (K) of 12 N/m in a viscous medium. The amplitude decreases from 6 cm at 1.5 seconds to 5.6 cm at 2.5 seconds, with a calculated displacement of 4.16 cm at 3 seconds. The correct formula for damped oscillation is established as x(t) = A e^(-bt/2m) cos(ωt + Φ), where A is the amplitude, b is the damping factor, and ω and Φ are constants derived from the system's parameters. Participants emphasize the need to incorporate a trigonometric factor to accurately represent oscillations.

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  • Understanding of damped harmonic motion
  • Familiarity with the formula x(t) = A e^(-bt/2m) cos(ωt + Φ)
  • Knowledge of spring constants and their implications in oscillatory systems
  • Basic skills in solving differential equations related to oscillations
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  • Study the derivation of the damped harmonic motion equation
  • Learn how to calculate the damping factor (b) and its effect on oscillation
  • Explore the relationship between amplitude and time in oscillatory systems
  • Investigate the role of initial conditions in determining the constants A, b/m, ω, and Φ
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Homework Statement


A spring with K=12N/m and an attached bob oscillates in a viscous medium.Amplitude is 6cm from equilibrium position at 1.5 s and Next amplitude of 5.6 cm occurs at 2.5s. what is its displacement at 3s and 4.5s and t=0s

Homework Equations



x(t)=Xme^-bt/2m

The Attempt at a Solution



x=4.16cm
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Where is the oscillating portion of your x(t) expression?
 
e=0.133 as the ration of decay.

x(t)=xm x .133 and However, I am confused to find Xm(amplitude at 3 s) . I considered Xm=5.2cm at 3s. But, it is a false assumption.
 
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robax25 said:
e=0.133 as the ration of decay.

x(t)=xm x .133 and However, I am confused to find Xm(amplitude at 3 s) . I considered Xm=5.2cm at 3s. But, it is a false assumption.
That is not what scottdave asked. The x(t) expression should have a trigonometric factor to represent the oscillation.
 
I do not get it. How can I calculate trigonometric factor?
 
robax25 said:
I do not get it. How can I calculate trigonometric factor?
You know the period. What is the general formula for a damped oscillation?
 
haruspex said:
You know the period. What is the general formula for a damped oscillation?
x(t)=Xme^-bt/2m here Xm is amplitude, b is damping factor
 
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robax25 said:
x(t)=Xme^-bt/2m here Xm is amplitude, b is damping factor
So is Xm the amplitude of the cosine wave? Did you look at the hyperphysics link I sent?
 
  • #11
I saw it ..they consider a for amplitude.However, I consider Xm
 
  • #12
robax25 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



x=4.16cm[/B]
“The attempt at a solution” means your steps and thoughts. Please show effort.
 
  • #13
robax25 said:
x(t)=Xme^-bt/2m here Xm is amplitude, b is damping factor
But clearly that does not produce an oscillation - unless that Xm is also a function of time.
What is the formula for an undamped SHM?
 
  • #14
Undamped SHM x(t)=Xmcos(ωt+∅)
 
  • #15
for damped Oscillation x(t)=A e^-bt/2m cos(ωt+Φ). I did not notice it properly

Here A is amplitude
 
  • #16
robax25 said:
for damped Oscillation x(t)=A e^-bt/2m cos(ωt+Φ). I did not notice it properly

Here A is amplitude
Right.
Now it is a matter of plugging the known facts into that equation to determine A, b/m, ω and φ.
So you need four equations. Knowing the displacement at a given time gives you one, and knowing that this is a local extrememum gives you another. You have that for two different times, giving you four equations altogether.
 
  • #17
how can I get the position at 3s?
 
  • #18
robax25 said:
how can I get the position at 3s?
Once you have determined the four constants as I described in post #16, you plug t=3 into your equation in post #15.
 

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