Discussion Overview
The discussion centers around determining the oxidation numbers of carbon and nitrogen in the compound (NH4)2C2O4. Participants explore the oxidation states within the context of chemical bonding and charge balance, rather than as part of a homework assignment.
Discussion Character
Main Points Raised
- One participant proposes that the oxidation number of carbon is +4 and nitrogen is -4.
- Another participant asserts that the first claim is incorrect but does not provide a definitive answer.
- A subsequent post requests clarification on why the initial claim is wrong.
- A different participant explains the reasoning for the oxidation numbers, stating that in the ammonium ion (NH4+), nitrogen has an oxidation number of -3, and in the oxalate ion (C2O42-), carbon has an oxidation number of +3 based on the charge balance with oxygen.
- A participant points out a typographical error regarding the charge of the ammonium ion, suggesting it should be NH4+ instead of NH4-.
- Another participant expresses gratitude for the discussion, reiterating their belief that carbon has an oxidation number of +4 in the compound.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the oxidation numbers, with multiple competing views presented regarding the oxidation states of carbon and nitrogen.
Contextual Notes
There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in calculating oxidation numbers and the implications of charge balance in the ions involved.