Oxidation Numbers for H3AsO4 and H2S Equation

  • Thread starter Thread starter Specter
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Numbers Oxidation
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying oxidation numbers for elements in the chemical equation H3AsO4 + H2S → H3AsO3 + S + H2O. Participants explore the oxidation states of arsenic and sulfur, applying rules for determining oxidation numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines rules for determining oxidation numbers, including the oxidation states of oxygen and hydrogen.
  • Another participant applies these rules to H2S, noting that it has no net charge and suggesting that sulfur may have an oxidation number of -2 to balance the +2 from hydrogen.
  • A later reply corrects the initial misunderstanding about the total contribution of hydrogen, clarifying that with two hydrogen atoms at +1 each, sulfur must indeed be -2 for the molecule to remain neutral.
  • Participants confirm the understanding that sulfur's oxidation number is -2 based on the previous calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the oxidation number of sulfur being -2, but there is some initial uncertainty regarding the contributions of hydrogen and how they affect the overall charge of H2S.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the oxidation states and their calculations are not explicitly detailed, and the discussion does not cover the oxidation states of arsenic in depth.

Specter

Homework Statement


Identify the element oxidized and the element reduced, in this chemical equation:
H3AsO4+H2S ---> H3AsO3+S+H2O

Homework Equations


none

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
So I have learned the rules for oxidation numbers:

1. The oxidation number of an element is always 0 regardless of its subscript. This is true as long as they are not part of compound.
2. The oxidation number of a simple ion is the charge of the ion.
3.The oxidation number of oxygen in compounds is -2.
4. The oxidation number of hydrogen in compounds is +1.
5.Group 1 and group 2 metals always have a +1, and +2 value, respectively, in compounds.
6. All other oxidation numbers are assigned so that the net sum of the oxidation numbers equals the net charge of the molecule or complex ion.

So with what I know I can figure out the oxidation numbers for the oxygens and hydrogens in the chemical equation but how do I figure out the numbers for arsenic and sulfur?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
So let's start with H2S. It has no net charge, so you can apply rules 6 and 4.
 
DrDu said:
So let's start with H2S. It has no net charge, so you can apply rules 6 and 4.
H2 would be +1 but I'm not sure what S would be. Would it be -2 so that it equals +1 overall?
 
Specter said:
H2 would be +1 but I'm not sure what S would be. Would it be -2 so that it equals +1 overall?

No, H2 would be not +1. You have two H at +1 each, so it is +2 total for hydrogen. If so, what must be the charge on the sulfur atom so that the molecule is neutral?
 
Borek said:
No, H2 would be not +1. You have two H at +1 each, so it is +2 total for hydrogen. If so, what must be the charge on the sulfur atom so that the molecule is neutral?
Oh I understand. Thats why S is -2.
 
Specter said:
Oh I understand. Thats why S is -2.

That's it.
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
9K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
5K