Chemistry Oxydation of cyclic enol with KMnO4

  • Thread starter Thread starter duchuy
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Cyclic
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the oxidation of cyclic enols using KMnO4, with a focus on the reaction mechanism. Participants highlight the importance of starting with the ene side of the enol, as KMnO4 behaves similarly to periodates with double bonds. A key step in the reaction involves the formation of a five-membered ring that includes manganese. There is also an emphasis on the necessity of using cold, dilute conditions to achieve the desired products. Overall, KMnO4 is noted as a strong, non-specific oxidizer, leading to a mixture of products in practical applications.
duchuy
Messages
79
Reaction score
3
Homework Statement
Please help me find the mechanism
Relevant Equations
x
WhatsApp Image 2021-12-10 at 11.13.49 AM.jpeg
Hi, please help me write the mechanism of this reaction. Usually id have an alpha hydrogen for me to do an internal proton transfer, but in this case i don't know what to do. I know the last step is wrong but i don't know how to obtain a carbonyl orcarboxylic acid form this.
Thank you so much for your help!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Caveat: practically speaking, KMnO4 is quite a strong, non-specific oxidizer, so in real life there’d likely be a mix of products.

That said, I’d focus on the ene side of the enol before the hydroxyl side. KMnO4 operates like periodates when it comes to double bonds.
 
TeethWhitener said:
Caveat: practically speaking, KMnO4 is quite a strong, non-specific oxidizer, so in real life there’d likely be a mix of products.

That said, I’d focus on the ene side of the enol before the hydroxyl side. KMnO4 operates like periodates when it comes to double bonds.
Thank you for your answer but I am not quite sure i'd know how to write the mechanism if i start with the ene side. Do i still form a ring of 4 or when i break the pi bond, it would go to the more electronegative oxygen?
 
I can’t quite parse your response, but one of the key steps of permanganate reacting with alkenes is the formation of a 5-member ring containing the manganese.
 
TeethWhitener said:
Caveat: practically speaking, KMnO4 is quite a strong, non-specific oxidizer, so in real life there’d likely be a mix of products.

That said, I’d focus on the ene side of the enol before the hydroxyl side. KMnO4 operates like periodates when it comes to double bonds.
Yes, true. I believe the conditions should be cold dilute to make the expected product.
 
  • Like
Likes TeethWhitener
Thread 'Confusion regarding a chemical kinetics problem'
TL;DR Summary: cannot find out error in solution proposed. [![question with rate laws][1]][1] Now the rate law for the reaction (i.e reaction rate) can be written as: $$ R= k[N_2O_5] $$ my main question is, WHAT is this reaction equal to? what I mean here is, whether $$k[N_2O_5]= -d[N_2O_5]/dt$$ or is it $$k[N_2O_5]= -1/2 \frac{d}{dt} [N_2O_5] $$ ? The latter seems to be more apt, as the reaction rate must be -1/2 (disappearance rate of N2O5), which adheres to the stoichiometry of the...
I don't get how to argue it. i can prove: evolution is the ability to adapt, whether it's progression or regression from some point of view, so if evolution is not constant then animal generations couldn`t stay alive for a big amount of time because when climate is changing this generations die. but they dont. so evolution is constant. but its not an argument, right? how to fing arguments when i only prove it.. analytically, i guess it called that (this is indirectly related to biology, im...
Back
Top