Pain Medication for Chronic Pain

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the use of Methadone and Suboxone as pain management options for individuals living with chronic pain, particularly in the context of spinal cord damage and the effectiveness of these medications. Participants share personal experiences, side effects, and alternative treatments related to chronic pain management.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their experience with chronic pain and the limited effectiveness of Suboxone, prompting interest in trying Methadone.
  • Concerns are raised about the side effects of Methadone, including potential cardiac issues and the risk of dependency.
  • Another participant notes that constipation is a significant problem associated with chronic opioid use, leading to various complications.
  • Some participants mention alternative treatments for chronic pain, such as tricyclic antidepressants and SSNRIs, but express skepticism about their effectiveness.
  • A participant discusses their own experience with neuropathic pain and the challenges of managing pain with opioids, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of medication use.
  • Information is provided about Methadone's pharmacological properties and its historical use in treating opioid addiction and chronic pain, along with a reference to a medical article.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness and safety of Methadone and Suboxone, with no consensus reached on the best approach to managing chronic pain. Concerns about side effects and alternative treatments are acknowledged, but differing opinions on the use of these medications remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants emphasize the importance of individual experiences and the need for medical guidance while discussing the limitations and risks associated with opioid use for chronic pain management.

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Hello,

Note: The purpose of the following question is not to ask for medical advice but to relay the experience of those of us who live with chronic pain. I already have plenty of medical advice from the appropriate pain specialists and specialized doctors. What I’m looking for is information on Methadone and/or Suboxone for chronic pain E.g. what are the side effects? How effective is it at removing pain and allowing patients to live full lives? Are there other complications of note? etc.

My question: I live with chronic pain from damage to my spinal cord. I had two surgeries that weren't 100% successful. I'm left with chronic pain that I have to live with. I tried various prescription painkillers over the last 7 years. In the end I went to a pain specialist who recommended either Suboxone or methadone. It's helped somewhat. Instead of constant pain levels between 5-7 all day long it’s down to levels of 3-6. I can sit inside my apartment all day long to keep the pain down but hat's no way to live a full life. Now that I've tried Suboxone and didn't get what I was hoping for. E.g. I took my med this morning and the sciatica is pretty bad today. On a scale of 1 to 10 it’s a 5. So I'm now looking into Methadone.

Here is my question: I've heard good and bad things about Suboxone. Not a lot of it was good, i.e. it wasn’t very helpful to them. Now I want to try the other medication that the pain specialist recommended, i.e. Methadone. I’m well informed about the downsides and danger of using methadone but I can’t live like this and I’m willing to take the risk, at least to see what it’s like. Who knows? I might just change it back to the Suboxone.

Does anybody here have any knowledge or references that may help inform me with regards to this issue? Are any of you suffering from chronic pain and would like to share?

Thank all of you!

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To all: please stick to the subject of chronic pain and methadone and don't try to address the OPs specific problems by recommending or diagnosing.
 
Constipation is a BIG problem for people that chronically use opioids. Blocking up the bowels all of the time can lead to all sorts of complications as you can imagine.

There's really no good medication for chronic severe pain. I used to work at a biopharm company that specialized in developing novel pain drugs. Tricyclic anti-depressants are also used for chronic pain as well as SSNRIs and NET inhibitors, but still, not a whole lot out there that works very well with inconsequential side effects with chronic use.
 
methadone is already a pretty hazardous opioid, did your care provider ever suggest any alternative treatments. There are some nasty cardiac side effects too, does your provider follow up with you on that
 
mazinse said:
methadone is already a pretty hazardous opioid, did your care provider ever suggest any alternative treatments. There are some nasty cardiac side effects too, does your provider follow up with you on that
It seems lower doses of methadone are successful for severe neuropathic pain. But I absolutely agree that other options be exhausted first. I have neuropathic pain and am on oxycodone, it doesn't help the neuropathic pain much, I use it mainly for the stomach pain from a botched nissen fundoplication. Yes, my GI flipped out and told me not to take it for my stomach pain, but it's the only thing that helps. I suffer from chronic severe diarhea, so no constipation issues. I don't want to become dependent on pain killers, so I usually deal with the pain and try not to take more than 1/2 a tablet per day, so I can eat.

I found this article to be interesting. I hope to stay away from ever more potent pain medications, but one of my other doctors said right now the stress from the pain is more damaging than the pain meds.

Methadone is a synthetic opioid. Although structurally dissimilar to morphine (MS Contin), methadone has significant analgesic qualities. Because the high dosages used in preliminary testing of methadone caused substantial side effects, the drug was not used clinically for several years.1 During the 1950s, methadone emerged as a treatment for opioid addiction and has remained the primary therapy for this condition for more than 40 years. Recently, methadone has been used to manage cancer pain and other chronic pain states. Its unique pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics make methadone a valuable option, but physicians should be aware of possible side effects.
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http://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/0401/p1353.html
 

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