Parallel boat to dock jump. Sense of Humor required

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The problem involves a scenario where a person jumps from a boat that is parallel to a dock, with the jump occurring at an angle of 30° above the horizontal. The distance from the boat to the dock is 1.5 m, and the masses of the person and the boat are given. The discussion revolves around understanding the dynamics of the jump and the resulting motion of the boat.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the jump angle relative to different frames of reference, questioning how the boat's movement affects the horizontal speed of the jump. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the jump's velocity components and the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the jump's angle and its effects on the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the jump's velocity and the boat's movement, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the reference frame for the jump angle, as well as the definitions of the variables involved in the equations being discussed. Participants are also navigating the appropriateness of certain expressions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



The deck of the boat is parallel to the dock as you jump from the boat and the direction of your velocity as you jump is 30° above the horizontal. If the boat was stationary when you jumped and 1.5 m away from the dock, what is the horizontal speed of the boat (in m/s) after you jump to the dock? Assume that your mass is 70 kg and the mass of the boat (including the captain) is 1400 kg.

Homework Equations



Pf = Pi

(Fnet) = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



0 = m1vf1 + m2vf2

vf2 = -m1vf1/m2(fnet)x = Fcosθ = m1a1
a= Fcosθ/m1

(fnet)y = -Fsinθ + n - m1g = 0

I feel like I'm heading in the wrong direction right now. Please help
 
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How you tackle this depends on how precise you want the answer. Strictly speaking, you should allow for the fact that the boat's movement will rob you of some horizontal speed. It then becomes important whether the take-off angle is relative to the boat as a frame of reference or relative to the dock. Let's assume the second.
Suppose your horizontal velocity relative to the dock is u. What was your vertical take off velocity? How long will it take to reach the dock? What height will you be at then? What does that tell you about u?
 
I took off the long funny part. Kind of inappropriate

burton
 
relative to the dock I'm jumping 60 degrees. u = F*Sinθ and v = Fcosθ right?

I don't understand how I get the velcotiy of my jump
 
burton95 said:
relative to the dock I'm jumping 60 degrees.
You may have misunderstood my point. If you jump at some angle to the horizontal relative to stationary ground, the angle of your jump will appear different to a passer by moving at some speed relative to the ground. Let's agree the question means 30 degrees to the horizontal as judged by a person standing on the dock.
u = F*Sinθ and v = Fcosθ right?
That depends what θ, F, u and v mean. Please define.
I don't understand how I get the velcotiy of my jump
It needs to be just sufficient to reach the dock.
 

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