Partial derivative interpretation

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The discussion revolves around the geometric interpretation of partial derivatives, specifically in relation to a function that includes a constant term. Participants explore how to understand the behavior of a function as one of its parameters is varied while others remain constant, with a focus on the implications of treating a variable as a constant in different contexts.

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  • One participant asks how to geometrically interpret the partial derivative of a specific function with respect to a constant.
  • Another participant notes that the term "constant" can be context-dependent, suggesting that clarity about the role of "c" is essential for proper interpretation.
  • It is mentioned that if "c" is treated as a true constant, the partial derivative would be zero, raising the question of whether a geometric interpretation is necessary in that case.
  • When "c" is considered a variable, the geometric interpretation parallels that of other variables, focusing on how the function value changes as "c" varies.
  • A participant describes the process of keeping other variables constant while observing changes in the function value with respect to "c," emphasizing the use of the chain rule for differentiation.
  • Another participant provides examples of how varying a constant affects the graph of a function, illustrating the concept with specific functions.
  • There is a reference to parametric differentiation as a method that can simplify integration problems by introducing parameters and differentiating with respect to them.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the term "constant" and its implications for the geometric interpretation of partial derivatives. There is no consensus on a single interpretation, and multiple views on the role of "c" and its treatment in the context of the discussion remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the ambiguity in defining "constant" versus "variable" in mathematical expressions, which may affect the interpretation of derivatives. The discussion also touches on the necessity of using specific terminology to avoid miscommunication.

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How do I interpret geometrically the partial derivative in respect to a constant of a function such as ##\frac{ \partial}{\partial c} (acos(x) + be^x + c)^2##?
 
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There are some contexts where people call a letter in an expression a "constant" and yet intend the letter to function as a variable or consider it a variable for part of their discussion and then treat it as an actual constant in other parts. So you should explain the complete context for the formula you are asking about.

If "c" is actually a constant, like c = 4.73 then the partial derivative of a function with respect to "c" is zero. Does that need a geometric interpretation?

If we are momentarily pretending "c" is a variable, then the geometric interpretation is like the geometric interpretation for other variables.
 
You look at the variation in the function value while keeping everything constant, except ##c##

To work out your example you'll still need the chain rule: to take the derivative of ##(D + c)^2\ ## (where ##D## is a constant) wrt ##c##, you'd get $$2(D+c)\; {\partial \over \partial c } (D+c) = 2(D+c) \ $$ or ##\ 2 (\arccos x + be^x + c)##

Geometrically you'd be working in the plane where ##a, b\ ## and ## x## are constant and the horizontal axis is the ##c## axis, the vertical axis is the function value. The derivative is the tangent of the slope.

To avoid miscommunication like what Stephen hints at, you could use the term 'parameter of the function' instead of 'constant of the function'. But I grant you that it's just a convention.
 
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I guess you're trying to see how the function varies as you change the constant.

As an example ##y=x^2 + c## as c varies the function's shape stays the same but it slides up and down on the graph of x vs y.

Next consider ##y=(x+c)^2## now as c varies the function again stays that same but slides back and forth on the graph of x vs y.

I know that sometimes to integrate a given function its easier to differentiate the constant of a simpler function of the same form that you already know the integral to in order to discover the integral of the given function.

From Prof Nearing's Math Methods book:

http://www.physics.miami.edu/~nearing/mathmethods/mathematical_methods-three.pdf
1.2 Parametric Differentiation

The integration techniques that appear in introductory calculus courses include a variety of methods of varying usefulness. There’s one however that is for some reason not commonly done in calculus courses: parametric differentiation. It’s best introduced by an example:

...see section 1.2 of the book...

You could integrate by parts n times and that will work. Instead of this method, do something completely different. Consider the integral of ##xe^{\alpha x}## It has the parameter ##\alpha## in it. Differentiate with respect to ##\alpha##.

...

The idea of this method is to change the original problem into another by introducing a parameter. Then differentiate with respect to that parameter in order to recover the problem that you really want to solve. With a little practice you’ll find this easier than partial integration.

Also see problem 1.47 for a variation on this theme. Notice that I did this using definite integrals. If you try to use it for an integral without limits you can sometimes get into trouble. See for example problem 1.42

(I had to paraphrase the books discussion due to poor latex skills on my part)
 
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