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I Partial derivative of a total derivative

  1. Nov 8, 2016 #1

    So, in order to calculate a Jacobian, I need to evaluate a partial derivative of a total derivative, i.e.
    Let's say I have a function f(x), how do I calculate something like: ∂(df/dx)/∂f?
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  3. Nov 8, 2016 #2


    Staff: Mentor

    Is this an actual example or something you just thought of?

    I can see you using the Jacobian to convert an integral from say XY cartesian coordinates to polar coordinates but not using f(x) by itself.

    integral ( f(x,y) dx dy) ---> integral (f(r,phi) Jacobian(r,phi) dr dphi)

    So you'd start with x=r * cos(phi) and y=r * sin(phi) and compute the Jacobian
    and then you'd convert f(x,y) to f(r,phi)


    Here's a short video tutorial on the Jacobian:

    Last edited: Nov 8, 2016
  4. Nov 8, 2016 #3
    Thank you for your reply. It is an actual example. I have to solve a system of differential equations using Newton-Raphson method, so, let's say I have a function: f1(y1(x1),y2(x1,x2)) = 0, with something like f1 =dy1/dx1 + something else. Then to construct the Jacobian I'll need to evaluate ∂f1/∂y1, which will lead to ∂(dy1/dx1)/∂y1. Any leads?
  5. Nov 8, 2016 #4


    Staff: Mentor

    Remember the chain rule?

    ∂f1/∂y1 * ∂y1/∂x1 = ∂f1/∂x1
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