Partial Fractions: Solve Integral of 1/y^2-1 dx

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the integral of \( \frac{1}{y^2-1} \) using partial fraction decomposition. Participants explore the method of decomposition and the algebraic steps involved in arriving at the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially struggles with the decomposition method for the integral \( \frac{1}{y^2-1} \) and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests decomposing \( \frac{1}{x^2-1} \) into partial fractions as \( \frac{A}{x+1} + \frac{B}{x-1} \) and asks how to proceed.
  • A participant describes their attempt at decomposition and sets up a system of equations based on the coefficients, expressing confusion over the results.
  • One participant corrects the earlier claim about the coefficients, indicating that \( A+B \) should equal 0 instead of 1, while \( -A+B \) should equal 1.
  • The original poster revises their approach based on the correction and presents a new expression for the integral, leading to a logarithmic result.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial setup of the equations for the coefficients, but there is agreement on the corrected approach to solving the integral using partial fractions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes algebraic manipulations that may depend on the correct identification of constants in the partial fraction decomposition, which some participants found confusing.

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Hi!

There's this one problem that I'm having troubles with. I've tried using the decomposition method, but I've ended up getting a messy answer. If someone can give me tips or the solution to the problem, I'll appreciate it. Here's the problem: solve the integral of 1/ y^2-1 dx.
 
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I assume you mean [tex]\int\frac{1}{x^2-1}dx[/tex].

So if you want to use partial fractions, you can decompose it as such:
[tex]\frac{1}{x^2-1}=\frac{A}{x+1}+\frac{B}{x-1}[/tex]. How would you continue?
 
I used that method however it came out pretty ugly.

(1) A/ y+1 + B/ y-1

(2) 1 = (y+1) (y-1) A/ y+1 + (y+1) (y-1) B/ y-1 -I multiplied each side by the LCD

(3) 1 = A(y-1) +B(y+1) -Cancelled algebraically

(4) 1 = y(A+B) + (-A+B)

Since there's only one constant, am I assume that (A+B) =1 and similarly that -A+B =1? In order to identify A and B, I set up the system of equations as:

A+B =1
-A+B= 1

I know there's something wrong here because for any subsitution I would get "0" Plus, I've never seen a partial decomp problem where A and B would equal to the same number.
 
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A little mistake at the end. Since there is no y term on the left side, you require A+B = 0, while -A + B = 1.
 
Thanks Nicksauce,

The only rational answer I can see why A+B can equal to 0 is because the costants on both sides of the equation are equal somehow

Here's what I got from using that helpful tip

(1) 1/ y^2-1 = A/ y-1 + B/ y+1

(2) -1/2/ y-1 + 1/2/ y+1

(3) integral 1/ y^2-1 dx = integral - dx/ 2(y-1) + dx/ 2(y+1)

(4) -1/2 integral dx/ y-1 + 1/2 integral dx/ y+1

= 1/2 ln (y+1) -1/2 ln (y-1) whew!

= 1/2 ln ((y-1)/(y+1))

Thanks for the help! :-)
 
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No problemo.
 

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