PARTIAL oxidation of methane as energy source

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The discussion revolves around the potential for partial oxidation of methane (CH4) as an energy source, focusing on theoretical reactions that could yield useful energy while minimizing CO2 emissions. Participants explore both the feasibility of such reactions and their practical applications in energy generation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that partial combustion of methane could yield solid carbon and water, potentially allowing for carbon trapping, though the energy recovery would be less than full combustion.
  • One participant suggests a specific reaction, CH4 + O2 → C + 2H2O, and questions its exothermic nature.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of kinetics and the need for a selective catalyst to promote desired reactions while suppressing unwanted ones, noting the challenge of preventing CO/CO2 formation.
  • Concerns are raised about the overall heat output from these reactions, with some participants expressing doubt about their exothermic efficiency.
  • One participant estimates that the energy recovery from a hypothetical reaction could be around 30% compared to full combustion, while another provides calculations suggesting that the semi-combustion of methane might yield about half the energy of complete combustion.
  • There are mentions of methane decomposition at high temperatures producing carbon and hydrogen, but challenges in energy recovery from heating are noted.
  • Participants discuss the possibility of using radiofrequency heating for methane decomposition, although concerns about energy efficiency are raised.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the feasibility and efficiency of partial oxidation of methane, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the potential energy recovery. Disagreement exists regarding the practicality of the proposed reactions and their thermodynamic and kinetic challenges.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainties regarding the exact energy yields of proposed reactions, the dependence on specific reaction conditions, and the unresolved challenges related to kinetics and catalyst selection.

Jorge Stolfi
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Methane from natural gas could be a great source of energy (eg. in thermoelectric plants), but the need to curb CO2 emissions stands in the way.

I wonder whether one could get useful energy from some partial combustion reaction of CH4, that yields H2O plus some carbon-containing solid that could be safely buried or stored. While that would fail to recover the full energy content of methane, it might be better than nothing.

The question has two parts: (1) find a reaction that is theoretically possible, exothermic, and carbon-trapping; and (2) figure out whether it could be achieved in practice.

The simplest answer to (1) may be

CH4 + O2 → C + 2H2O​

I suppose that it would be exothermic, but not very much. Correct?

The solid C-containing product could also be any of a large number of CxHyOz compounds, such as oxalic acid C2H2O4, mellitic anhydride C12O9, ... With these partly oxidized end-products one may perhaps recover a large fraction of the heat yielded by full combustion.

Part (2) of the question seems harder, as the carbon seems easier to oxidize than the hydrogens. It seems that attempt at partial combustion with 1:1 methane oxigen ratio usually gives syngas:

CH4 + O2 → CO + H2O + H2

However it seems that at high pressure the reaction is shifted to

CH4 + 0.5O2 → H3COH​

This reaction seems to be a commercially interesting synthesis route for methanol, but could it be also a useful source of heat? (Note that additional processing would be needed to convert the methanol into a safely disposable solid.)
 
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Kinetics plays the pivotal role in such schemes. You'd need to find a selective catalyst to promote the desired reaction under conditions that suppress other reactions. As you note, carbon affinity for oxygen is much higher than hydrogen - so it will be difficult to suppress CO/CO2 formation completely. While higher pressures might be useful in shifting thermodynamic equilibrium, you'll still need to fight against kinetics.

As for whether it can be a useful source of heat: doubtful. As you said, these reactions are not particularly exothermic.
 
Thanks for the comment. The kinetics is a concern for part (2); as for part (1), what is your guess about the fraction of energy that could be obtained? (My guess for C(s) + 2H2O is around 30% of CO2 + 2H2O; unfortunately I do not know enough chemistry to compute it.)

What about, say, 2CH4 + 3.5O2 → 3H2O + C2H2O4 (oxalic acid)? Note that stoichometrically this is almost a complete burn...
 
If I computed correctly (please check, I am not a chemist),
CH4 + O2 → C + 2H2O + 434 kJ​
Compare to
CH4 + 2O2 → CO2 + 2H2O + 871 kJ​
C + 0.5 O2 → CO + 110 kJ​
C + O2 → CO2 + 395 kJ​
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O + 572 kJ​
All energy values are per mol of reaction, at standard conditions. Thus the hypothetical semi-combution of methane would give about half as much energy as the full combustion.
 
It seems that methane will partly decompose to C + 2H2 at 1500-2500K; but other byproducts are generated as well, and it may not be easy to recover the energy used to heat it up to that temperature.

Methane can be cleanly decomposed to carbon black and hydrogen by radiofrequency heating. The process is probably too inefficient energywise, although it is commercially used for the production of high-quality carbon black:

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=01420624
 
Jorge Stolfi said:
It seems that methane will partly decompose to C + 2H2 at 1500-2500K; but other byproducts are generated as well, and it may not be easy to recover the energy used to heat it up to that temperature.

Methane can be cleanly decomposed to carbon black and hydrogen by radiofrequency heating. The process is probably too inefficient energywise, although it is commercially used for the production of high-quality carbon black:

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=01420624

I don't have any numbers on hand, but in my experience you can crack methane with a decent yield at less than 1000K in an inert atmosphere without catalysts. This would place an upper temperature limit for your process that might limit the efficiency of any cycle designed to recover usable heat from the process.
 

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