Particle Physics and Quantum Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between quantum mechanics (QM) and the Standard Model of particle physics, exploring the applications of QM and its foundational role in understanding various physical phenomena.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how QM applies to the interactions of particles in the Standard Model and seeks clarity on the relationship between the two.
  • Another participant asserts that while QM is essential for understanding the Standard Model, it can also lead to the development of other theories beyond the Standard Model.
  • A different participant highlights the practical applications of QM in modern technology, such as electronics and medical imaging, suggesting that its relevance extends beyond theoretical physics.
  • Another claim is made that classical mechanics is fundamentally based on QM, indicating a deeper connection that requires advanced understanding of both fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the relationship between QM and the Standard Model, with some emphasizing QM's foundational role and others focusing on its broader applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise nature of this relationship.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different levels of understanding required for QM and classical mechanics, indicating potential limitations in their arguments based on assumed knowledge.

crastinus
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I’m having a hard time, as I begin learning QM, knowing what it applies to, if I can put it that way.

Is QM the rules that describe how the particles of the Standard Model interact with each other? Or what is the best way to understand the relationship between what one studies when one studies QM and what one studies when one studies the standard model?
 
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Quantum mechanics is necessary for understanding the Standard Model, but it's also possible to form many other theories in QM in addition to SM. This is similar to how Newton's first, second and third laws are necessary for understanding the classical theory of gravity, but can be applied to other things, too.
 
crastinus said:
I’m having a hard time, as I begin learning QM, knowing what it applies to, if I can put it that way.

Our modern electronics, such as your microprocessor, your mobile devices, your computers, etc.. are all built on QM.

Modern medicine, such as MRI, are built on QM.

QM's applications are all around you. You do not have to reach out as far as the Standard Model or particle physics to find them.

Zz.
 
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Believe it or not classical mechanics is built on QM. But first you need to learn QM to the level of path integrals and Classical Mechanics at the level of a book like Landau - Mechanics.

Thanks
Bill
 
Thanks for the help!
 

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