Particles in a Box Homework: A,B,C,D

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving particles in one-dimensional and two-dimensional boxes. The original poster presents a series of questions regarding the energy states of non-classical particles, their degeneracy, and the maximum occupancy of states.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the meaning of "states" in the context of quantum numbers, questioning the absence of orbital quantum numbers in a one-dimensional scenario. They discuss the energy levels found for the particles and the implications of degeneracy, with some confusion about the definitions and conditions for degeneracy. Additionally, there is uncertainty regarding the classification of particles as bosons or fermions and how this relates to the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and seeking clarification on concepts such as degeneracy and the nature of the particles involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the definition of states and degeneracy, but there remains a lack of consensus on certain aspects, particularly concerning the maximum number of particles in each state.

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Participants note the absence of specific information regarding whether the particles are bosons or fermions, which is relevant to understanding occupancy limits in quantum states. There is also mention of the teacher's input on degeneracy, indicating that some assumptions are being questioned.

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Homework Statement


(a)Think of a one-dimensional box of length L. There are two identical, non classical particles of mass m in the box. The total energy of the system is 13*pie^2h^2/2mL^2. What states are occupied by by the two particles?
(B) If a single non-classical particle of mass m in a two dimensional square box of side length L has energy 10pie^2h^2/2mL^2 what state is it in?
(C) Are the states found in A and B degenerate or nondegenerate?
(d) What is the maximum number of particles that can be in each state?



The Attempt at a Solution


(a) I was able to find the energy levels to be n1=2 and n2=3 but what do they mean by states? Are you not supposed to have orbital quantum number and ml and ms? and why is that?

(b) since it is a two dimensional box it has two directions nyf= 3 or 1 and nxf=1 or 3. The energies should add since it is a 2 dimensional box correct?
(c) i have no idea what degenerate means. My teacher tells us that both a and b are degenerate. Is this because they have different energy levels? he said it has something to do with wave function.
(d) no idea think its either boson or fermion but not sure how to know without knowing wave function.
 
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(a) I was able to find the energy levels to be n1=2 and n2=3 but what do they mean by states? Are you not supposed to have orbital quantum number and ml and ms? and why is that?
You can also have n1=3 and n2=2. And states are defined by the quantum numbers, so |2,3> is a state as well as |3,2>. You don't have orbital quantum numbers because this is a 1D problem.

(c) i have no idea what degenerate means. My teacher tells us that both a and b are degenerate. Is this because they have different energy levels? he said it has something to do with wave function.
Degenerate just means that more than one state has the same energy. And both (a) and (b) have two possible states for the given energies.

(d) no idea think its either boson or fermion but not sure how to know without knowing wave function.
Does it specify somewhere that they are bosons or fermions?
 
when i asked him he said their are two kinds of particles. the normal one's we think of and then their are these other ones. So i am assuming they are bosons and fermions.
 
anyone know how to do part d?
 

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