Pauli Matrices and Structure Constants

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The discussion focuses on generating Pauli matrices using the structure constants from the adjoint representation of SU(2). The user references the formula T_a = σ_a / 2, indicating that the generators are proportional to the Pauli matrices. However, they encounter confusion when calculating the elements of the first Pauli matrix, resulting in a zero matrix. The user concludes that the dimensionality of the representation must be reconsidered, emphasizing that the smallest non-trivial matrix representation for SU(2) is three-dimensional, not two-dimensional.

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Hey folks,

I am trying to generate the Pauli matrices and am using the following formula taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU(3 )

"In the adjoint representation the generators are represented by (n^2-1)×(n^2-1) matrices whose elements are defined by the structure constants"

[tex](T_a)_{jk} = -if_{ajk}[/tex]

ok - I'm fine up to here. Now it says, "For SU(2), the generators T, in the defining representation, are proportional to the Pauli matrices, via:"

[tex]T_a=\frac{\sigma_a}{2}[/tex]

So here is my problem. I am assuming that j and k run from 1:2. This way T_a is a 2x2 matrix. But let's try this for the first Pauli matrix:

[tex](T_1)_{11} = -if_{111}=0[/tex]
[tex](T_1)_{12} = -if_{112}=0[/tex]
[tex](T_1)_{21} = -if_{121}=0[/tex]
[tex](T_1)_{22} = -if_{122}=0[/tex]

[tex] \sigma_{1} = \left(\begin{array}{cc}0 & 0\\0 & 0\end{array}\right)[/tex]

Clearly I am doing something wrong...but what?
 
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first of all here's a friendly advise : one might not want to truly learn something from wikipedia. democracy has its own problems.

anyways, please note that the smallest non-trivial matrix representation of dim n[tex]^{2}[/tex]-1 is for n=2, and the dim is 3. Pauli matrices are 2d reps. So you see all that follows this point need to be re-thought.


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