Payphone Mechanics: An Investigation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of payphones, specifically focusing on how they recognize different types of coins. Participants explore the similarities between payphones and vending machines, while seeking detailed explanations of the coin recognition mechanisms used in these systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe payphones as a type of vending machine that provides access to the phone network.
  • One participant requests information on the specific mechanisms used to recognize coins in payphones, noting that available resources do not provide sufficient detail.
  • Another participant suggests searching for "coin mechanism" online, while warning against seeking methods to spoof these machines.
  • A participant clarifies that they are not interested in spoofing but rather in using similar mechanisms for a project involving automated parking lot entry.
  • One participant mentions finding patents related to coin mechanisms, suggesting that these could provide useful insights for the project.
  • There is a discussion about the proprietary nature of coin-operated mechanisms, indicating that detailed workings may not be widely available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic function of payphones as vending machines, but there is no consensus on the specific mechanisms used for coin recognition, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the technical details.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the proprietary nature of coin mechanism designs and the lack of comprehensive resources available online. Participants express frustration over the insufficient explanations found in existing literature.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the mechanics of coin-operated machines, particularly those working on projects related to automated systems or seeking to understand vending technology.

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The pay phones in which we have to drop the coin in and then we are able to make calls. These are often evident at railway stations and other places. Does anyone have any idea as to how they work?
 
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i do understand that they are just vending machines. Could you tell me the mechanism which is used to recognise a particular type of coin in these sort of machines. Wikipedia does not have this info. I have also tried googling it.
 
banerjeerupak said:
i do understand that they are just vending machines. Could you tell me the mechanism which is used to recognise a particular type of coin in these sort of machines. Wikipedia does not have this info. I have also tried googling it.

Go back to google, and google coin mechanism. You will get lots of helpful hits.

I do want to warn you, though, that if you are looking for ways to spoof coin-operated vending machines, you will get no further help here on the PF.
 
berkeman said:
Go back to google, and google coin mechanism. You will get lots of helpful hits.

I do want to warn you, though, that if you are looking for ways to spoof coin-operated vending machines, you will get no further help here on the PF.

Ah.

Just think of the great careers and major industries that were spawned by phone phreaks... dear dead days beyond recall & all that... :biggrin:
 
I'm not trying to spoof anything. I was planning to use the same mechanism to operate a automated entry to parking lots for my minor project. I have been googling the stuff. The hits are not of much use, the mechanism is never explained enough to understand its working. Mostly it is vendors selling the stuff. Which is of no use to me.
 
banerjeerupak said:
I'm not trying to spoof anything. I was planning to use the same mechanism to operate a automated entry to parking lots for my minor project. I have been googling the stuff. The hits are not of much use, the mechanism is never explained enough to understand its working. Mostly it is vendors selling the stuff. Which is of no use to me.

Fair enough. Okay, one of the things I noticed in the google search results that I pointed you to, and some other google searches I did with a couple other keywords added into the basic coin mechanism search, was that there were some patents listed in the hit list.

I'd figured that most coin operated mechanism details were probably kept proprietary by the manufacturers (both for spoofing and competition reasons), but the patent hits also implies that some of the details are disclosed in patents (no help against spoofing, but of some limited help against competition).

So I went to the general patent search website that I use:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html

and did a basic search on the two key words in the Title field: coin mechanism. That gave lots of hits that look like they should give you lots of ideas for your project. Here's the hit list from that search:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...1=TI&co1=AND&TERM2=mechanism&FIELD2=TI&d=PTXT

Best of luck with your project!
 
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