Pb(MnO4)2: Lead Permanganate Formula

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The formula for lead(II) permanganate is Pb(MnO4)2, which indicates the combination of lead, manganese, and oxygen. The prefix "per-" signifies the highest oxidation state of the central atom, resulting in the maximum number of oxygen atoms bonded to it. Understanding the distinction between manganate and permanganate is crucial, as it affects the naming and chemical properties of the compounds. The discussion highlights the importance of recognizing systematic and conventional naming in chemistry.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of chemical nomenclature, specifically the significance of prefixes like "per-"
  • Familiarity with oxidation states and their implications in chemical formulas
  • Knowledge of oxyanions, particularly manganate (MnO42-) and permanganate (MnO4-)
  • Basic skills in interpreting periodic table information for determining charges of elements
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  • Research the properties and applications of lead(II) permanganate in chemical reactions
  • Learn about the differences between manganate and permanganate, including their oxidation states
  • Study the naming conventions of oxyanions and their systematic versus conventional names
  • Explore the role of oxidation states in determining the behavior of transition metals in compounds
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Chemistry students, educators, and professionals involved in chemical nomenclature and compound formulation will benefit from this discussion.

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Homework Statement


Write the formula of : lead(2) permanganate

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So I know that this formula is the combination of lead magnesium and oxygen. I know that the -ate suffix means that it has the most number of oxygen ions possible. The answer was Pb (MnO4)2. I don't know what
1- the prefix per- means
2 - how to find the number of Oxygen molecules
3- how to find the magnesium oxyanion
4- how to find the charge of a substance based on its location on the periodic table
thanks in advance!
 
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No way to answer your questions without knowing what manganate is. Lead(II) permanganate is not a systematic name, half-systematic name at best.

per- means acid with the highest oxidation state of the central atom (or the highest number of oxygen atoms combined with the central atom).

Naming of many substances is half-systematic, half-conventional. Unfortunately, that means many of these names are best remembered.
 
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Borek said:
No way to answer your questions without knowing what manganate is. Lead(II) permanganate is not a systematic name, half-systematic name at best.

per- means acid with the highest oxidation state of the central atom (or the highest number of oxygen atoms combined with the central atom).

Naming of many substances is half-systematic, half-conventional. Unfortunately, that means many of these names are best remembered.

OK thanks! I didn't notice that the problem gave the formula for manganese. I figured it out.
 
BrainMan said:
problem gave the formula for manganese

Manganese? Or manganate?
 
Borek said:
Manganese? Or manganate?

Sorry I meant manganate.
 
OK, that makes the problem easier.

Still, sometimes difference between acid and peracid is number of oxygens (ClO3- vs ClO4-), sometimes it is charge of the oxyanion (MnO42- vs MnO4-).
 

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