Peptide chains with ER sequences

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The discussion revolves around understanding the positioning of peptide chains in relation to the endoplasmic reticulum (ER), particularly focusing on the implications of ER signal sequences and stop transfer signals. Participants are exploring how to visualize these peptide chains based on their structural features and associated signals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about determining the N-terminal and C-terminal ends of a peptide chain based solely on the presence of an ER signal and stop transfer signal.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on what the term "ER" refers to, indicating a need for foundational knowledge.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to a chapter on the endoplasmic reticulum from a cell biology textbook, providing links to figures that may aid understanding.
  • One participant notes the challenge of determining how to draw the protein's orientation relative to the ER based on the presence of ER signals and stop transfer signals.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of analyzing specific figures to understand the implications of signal peptide locations and their effects on peptide behavior.
  • Several questions are proposed for consideration when analyzing peptide chains, including the presence and location of ER signal peptides and stop transfer signals, as well as their implications for transmembrane integration.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on how to interpret the signals and their implications for peptide orientation. There are multiple viewpoints and questions raised, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific figures and concepts from cell biology, suggesting that understanding may depend on familiarity with these materials. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the implications of various signal sequences on peptide positioning.

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I have been given 5 peptide chains with ER sequencs. I am supposed to draw the chain as it would be associated with the ER. But I don't understand by looking at one with just an N-terminal and Er signal how it should be positioned. How can you tell just by the presence (or absence of) an ER signal and stop transfer which end the N-terminal is and which is the C- terminal? :confused:
 
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Could you please expand on the ER - what is ER?
 
What we're supposed to do is figure out how to draw the protien on either side of the ER depending on if there is an ER signal or a stop transfer signal on it. Thats where i get lost.
 
Look carefully at this picture

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2224

there a signal peptide and a stop signal - What happen to the peptide?

Look a these two figures now
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2212

Different location of the signal peptide results in different events.

Also compare these figures
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2224
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.figgrp.2227

Same kind of results but there two differences - Can you spot the differences?

Just to summarize question you need to ask when analyzing your peptide and the figures:
1. Is a ER signal peptide present?
2. If so, where is the signal peptide located (N-terminus, COOH-terminus or inside the peptide)?
3. If so, how many ER signa are present? Tell you how many transmembrane domain will be integrate in the membrane.
4. Is a stop transfer signal sequence present? Tell you if the protein will be integrated in the membrane
5. If so, how many stop transfer signal sequence and where the signal sequence located?
 

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