Perfectly Inelastic Ball Collision: Final Velocities of Both Balls

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The discussion revolves around a perfectly inelastic collision between two balls, where one ball is initially in motion and the other is at rest. Participants are exploring the final velocities of both balls post-collision, focusing on the principles of momentum and energy conservation.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply momentum conservation to determine the final velocities, suggesting that both balls would move together at the same speed after the collision. Some participants question the validity of this approach by introducing energy conservation, leading to different results.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some confirming the momentum approach while others express confusion over the energy conservation method, noting that kinetic energy is not conserved in inelastic collisions. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods and interpretations.

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Ball 1, with a mass of 100 g and traveling at 10 m/s, collides head-on with Ball 2, which has a mass of 300 g and is initially at rest. What are the final velocities of each ball if the collision is perfectly inelastic?


We're suppose to be talking about Energy, but I figured I could use:

mv+mv (initial)=mv (final)



I got 2.5 m/s for both balls, because if the objects are inelastic they will be traveling at the same speed after collision and momentum is conserved.
Is this right?
 
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That would be correct.
 
but now I just tried to use conservation of Energy and got a different answer. I tried
1/2 mv^2 + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2mv^2 (final for system)

I got both balls traveling at 5 m/s ??
 
PnotConserved said:
but now I just tried to use conservation of Energy and got a different answer. I tried
1/2 mv^2 + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2mv^2 (final for system)

I got both balls traveling at 5 m/s ??

Kinetic energy is not conserved in an inelastic collision.
 
I tried the V' substitution before but was wrong.

The expression that the book describes it to be:
---> the square root of [(m+M)kd^2] / m^2
 
You might want to find out the kinetic energy of the balls before the collision, because you are talking about a change in energy.
 

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