Permutations in rotations and reflections

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The discussion focuses on calculating the composition of permutations representing rotations and reflections of a regular pentagon, specifically using the rotation R (72 degrees anticlockwise) and reflection F (in the vertical line of symmetry). The user has identified R as the cycle (15432) and F as the permutation (25)(34). The task involves computing the expression F R^2 F R F^3 R^3 F, which requires understanding the composition of these permutations and expressing the result as a symmetry of the pentagon.

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Hi all, I've been having difficulty with the following question.

Let P be a regular pentagon. Let R be the rotation of P by 72degrees anticlockwise and let F be the reflection of P in the vertical line of symmetry. Represent R and F by permutations and hence calculate: F R^2 F R F^3 R^3 F, expressing this first as a permutation and then as a symmetry of P.I think I've correctly worked out R as the cycle (15432) and F = (25)(34). I've written these as permutations however, I don't understand how to do the calculation asked for and what it means by 'expressing as a symmetry of P'.

Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 
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The calculation is just the composition of the R and F permutations, in the specified order. In your case, you first rotate counterclockwise by 72 degrees (F), then reflect three times (here, you may use the fact that R2=I, where I is the identity), then rotate again by 3x72 degrees, etc.

The final expression should express a symmetry.
 
JSuarez said:
The calculation is just the composition of the R and F permutations, in the specified order. In your case, you first rotate counterclockwise by 72 degrees (F), then reflect three times (here, you may use the fact that R2=I, where I is the identity), then rotate again by 3x72 degrees, etc.

The final expression should express a symmetry.


So, I should work out the permutations for F, R^2, ... etc. and then multiply them all in the order stated. Is this what you're saying? (Sorry I didn't quite understand).
 
Yes, that's pretty much it.
 
JSuarez said:
Yes, that's pretty much it.

Ok, thank you. =)
 
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