Perpendicular inelastic collision problem

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The discussion centers on the derivation of equations related to perpendicular inelastic collisions, specifically addressing the disappearance of the variable "v" in the calculations. Participants highlight the importance of solving the system of equations 4.5.18 to find "v," which is dependent on the masses (m1, m2) and initial velocities (v1, v2) of the colliding objects. The final result is expressed in equation 4.5.20 after substituting "v" into equation 4.5.19 and performing algebraic manipulations. Additionally, a general formula for energy loss in one-dimensional inelastic collisions is presented, emphasizing the role of reduced mass and relative velocity.

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  • Understanding of inelastic collision dynamics
  • Familiarity with algebraic manipulation of equations
  • Knowledge of reduced mass calculation: μ = (m1*m2)/(m1+m2)
  • Basic concepts of energy conservation in collisions
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  • Study the derivation of equations 4.5.18 and 4.5.19 in the context of inelastic collisions
  • Explore the concept of reduced mass in greater detail
  • Learn about vector representation of velocities in collision problems
  • Investigate energy loss formulas for various types of collisions
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Homework Statement
Where did "v" go?
Relevant Equations
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I still don't get it where did "v" go.
I'm trying to solve the problem that is on the second image.
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Yes well your book doesn't show all the in between steps on how exactly it derives that result. It just states "Sparing the reader the algebra".

What is done in the in between steps (which you should try to work out by yourself, I ll just outline the steps) is that the system of equations 4.5.18 (two equations with two unknowns, the common velocity and the angle) is solved and then once you solve it and find ##v## (##v## will be a function of ##m_1,m_2, v_1,v_2##) then ##v## it is replaced in equation 4.5.19 and then after some algebra you end up with equation 4.5.20.
 
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NODARman said:
Homework Statement:: Where did "v" go?
Relevant Equations:: .

I still don't get it where did "v" go.
I'm trying to solve the problem that is on the second image.
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There's a general result (which can be derived) for energy loss in a 1 dimensional inelastic (collide and coalesce) collision: $$\Delta E= \frac{1}{2} \mu \Delta v^2$$ where ##\mu## is the reduced mass of the colliding objects and ##\Delta v## their relative velocity: $$\mu = \frac{m_1m_2}{m_1+m_2}$$It looks like there's nothing different here except that ##\Delta v## is replaced by the vector difference of the two velocities.
 
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