Perpendicular Unit Vectors in the x-y Plane: Is My Solution Correct?

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The discussion revolves around finding unit vectors in the x-y plane that are perpendicular to a given vector A=<3, 4, -4>, as well as exploring the relationships between these vectors and the plane they define. The subject area includes vector mathematics, specifically focusing on unit vectors, dot products, and cross products.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method for finding a unit vector B that is perpendicular to vector A, questioning the conditions for a vector to be considered a unit vector. There is an exploration of the dot product and its implications for perpendicularity. The original poster attempts to clarify their reasoning regarding the conditions for unit vectors and the calculations involved in finding vector C.

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The discussion includes attempts to validate the original poster's solution, with some participants providing guidance on the conditions for unit vectors. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations presented, particularly regarding the definitions and properties of the vectors involved. Multiple interpretations of the conditions for unit vectors are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying the definition of a unit vector, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the original poster's approach. The conversation reflects a focus on ensuring mathematical accuracy and clarity in reasoning.

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Homework Statement


From Kleppner and Kolenkow Chapter 1 (Just checking to see if I'm right)

Given vector A=<3, 4, -4>
a) Find a unit vector B that lies in the x-y plane and is perpendicular to A.
b) Find a unit vector C that is perpendicular to both A and B.
c)Show that A is perpendicular to the plane defined by B and C.

Homework Equations


Cross Product
Dot Product
Knowing how to find a plane from two vectors

The Attempt at a Solution


a) Using the following system...
3x+4y=0 (using dot product and z=0)
x+y=1 (For it to be a unit vector the sum of the two components must be 1)
The perendicular vector is
##<4, -3, 0>##
and the unit vector after dividing by the magnitude is...
##B=<4/5, -3/5, 0>##

b)Finding the cross product of A and B and dividing by the magnitude...
##C=<\frac{-12,}{5\sqrt{41}}, \frac{-16}{5\sqrt{41}}, \frac{-5}{\sqrt{41}}>##

c)##B \times C=<75, 100, -100>##
Therefore the plane is defined by...
##3x+4y-4z=0##
Therefore A is perpendicular since its components equal the constants that define the plane.

I'm pretty sure I did everything right I just wanted to make sure and see if any of my wording is dumb or if I made a mistake. I don't know how to write the last part formally. Thanks all!
 
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You can show things are perpendicular by computing the dot product between two vectors.
 
PhotonSSBM said:

Homework Statement


From Kleppner and Kolenkow Chapter 1 (Just checking to see if I'm right)

Given vector A=<3, 4, -4>
a) Find a unit vector B that lies in the x-y plane and is perpendicular to A.
b) Find a unit vector C that is perpendicular to both A and B.
c)Show that A is perpendicular to the plane defined by B and C.

Homework Equations


Cross Product
Dot Product
Knowing how to find a plane from two vectors

The Attempt at a Solution


a) Using the following system...
3x+4y=0 (using dot product and z=0)
x+y=1 (For it to be a unit vector the sum of the two components must be 1)
NO! For it to be a unit vector we must have \sqrt{x^2+ y^2}= 1, not x+ y!

The perendicular vector is
##<4, -3, 0>##
and the unit vector after dividing by the magnitude is...
##B=<4/5, -3/5, 0>##
So x+ y is NOT 1!

b)Finding the cross product of A and B and dividing by the magnitude...
##C=<\frac{-12,}{5\sqrt{41}}, \frac{-16}{5\sqrt{41}}, \frac{-5}{\sqrt{41}}>##

c)##B \times C=<75, 100, -100>##
Therefore the plane is defined by...
##3x+4y-4z=0##
Therefore A is perpendicular since its components equal the constants that define the plane.

I'm pretty sure I did everything right I just wanted to make sure and see if any of my wording is dumb or if I made a mistake. I don't know how to write the last part formally. Thanks all!
 
HallsofIvy said:
NO! For it to be a unit vector we must have \sqrt{x^2+ y^2}= 1, not x+ y!
I see, but since the unit vector I found follows that condition...
##\sqrt{(\frac{4}{5})^2 + (\frac{-3}{5})^2} = 1##
is my solution still right?
 

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