Perpendicular wires carrying current, torque

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The discussion focuses on calculating the torque on two perpendicular wires carrying currents I_1 and I_2. The torque can be determined using the equation τ = μ × B = r × F, where the magnetic field B is generated by the current in one wire affecting the other. Participants suggest treating the distance between the wires as a variable and emphasize that the magnetic field from one wire can be calculated similarly to parallel wires, despite their perpendicular arrangement. The magnetic dipole moment μ is not applicable in this scenario due to the wires being infinitely thin.

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Homework Statement



Two thin wires of length [tex]L_1, L_2[/tex] were placed perpendicular to each other in half of their lengths. Wires are carrying current [tex]I_1[/tex] and [tex]I_2.[/tex] Find the torque on each of those wires.

Homework Equations



[tex]\tau = \mu \times B = r \times F[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


To calculate the force I need the magnetic field, which I don't really know how to calculate in this problem. Calculating the magnetic dipole moment would require surface area, which I guess is zero(wires are infinitely thin) so it's a dead end. In parallel lines problem I could calculate magnetic field and force easily in any point in space, but I guess I can't really do that here because there is no distance between the wires. Where should I start?
 
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Hello zzz and welcome to PF.

Re distance:
The thing to do is not to let that lack of info stop you: call this distance d, or use 1 m to begin with, whatever. Perhaps it cancels later on...

Re μ: doesn't appear , so I don't know what it stands for here ;)

Re: magnetic field: you should be able to find something on the magnetic field due to a current carrying wire...(If you can for parallel wires, you can also do it for perpendicular ones: B fields simply add up -- and wire 2 only "feels" the field from 1 anyway)

(By the same token as the distance: B field of infinitley long wire to begin with: what changes (strength, direction) if length is finite...)
 

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