Perpetual machine by using free energy of magnets Possible?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of a perpetual motion machine (PMM) utilizing magnets as a source of free energy. It is established that magnets do not possess energy; they can only exert force when an external push is applied. The conversation highlights that such machines violate the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Additionally, the thread emphasizes that discussions on PMMs are banned in many forums due to their scientifically unfounded nature.

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Does magnets posses free energy?
Does the machine shown in image will run?

If no...give reason...

I know it seems to voilate 1st law of thermodaynamics...But why it voilates it?
 

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No it won't work.

Reason: magnets don't possesses energy. At best they act like springs; providing a force but only if you push first.:smile:
 
Perpetual motion is a myth that probably will never die.

First of all you'll need a perfect vacuum.

Secondly you'll need perfect bearings to mount the spindle onto.

Thirdly think about what happens when the magnets that are on the rotating arms line up with the stationary magnets around the outside.
 
waqarrashid33 said:
Does magnets posses free energy?
Does the machine shown in image will run?

If no...give reason...

I know it seems to voilate 1st law of thermodaynamics...But why it voilates it?

PMMs are on the list of banned subjects at the Rules link at the top of the page. Thread is closed.

Rules said:
Perpetual motion and "free energy" discussions
Search PF and you will find many threads that have been closed in a number of forums. As for S&D, any claim of this nature would be reproducible and/or testable by the scientific community; hence there is no need for debate.
EDIT by berkeman -- here are some recent locked PMM threads:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=522548
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=520290
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=7735
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=515402
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=403572
 

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