PGRE and application to grad schools

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on preparing for the Physics GRE (PGRE) and its implications for applying to graduate schools in physics and applied physics. Participants explore study strategies, the relevance of coursework, and the impact of a materials science background on graduate applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether to focus on introductory textbooks like Serway or advanced texts such as Griffiths and Goldstein for PGRE preparation.
  • Another participant suggests that the majority of PGRE questions are based on introductory topics, indicating that studying from introductory textbooks can be beneficial.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of research experience and strong math skills in graduate applications, arguing that a materials science background should not be a disadvantage.
  • There is a recommendation to practice with previous PGRE tests as a preparation strategy.
  • One participant advises focusing study efforts on weaker areas rather than reinforcing strengths, highlighting the potential for greater improvement.
  • Concerns are raised about the timing of the PGRE test, with a suggestion to take it in October rather than November to ensure timely score reporting for applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the utility of introductory textbooks for PGRE preparation and the importance of research experience. However, there is no consensus on the best approach to studying or the specific impact of a materials science background on graduate applications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the PGRE is a standardized test with a mix of introductory and advanced topics, but the exact balance and difficulty of questions remain unspecified. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve how much time is needed for preparation relative to ongoing coursework.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for the Physics GRE, particularly those with a background in materials science or related fields, as well as those interested in applying to graduate programs in physics or applied physics.

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I am going to take GRE physics next October (or November). From what someone should begin with?

Are the 1st year textbooks (like Serway's) useful, or one should study all the stuff from the advanced undergraduate texts (Griffiths' e/m, Goldstein's classical mech., Shankar's quantum mech., etc)?

And the last question...
I am an material science student. Could this be a disadvantage to my applications to physics and applied physics graduate schools? I have already pass e/m (from Griffiths), quantum mechanics (mainly from Shankar), optics (from Hecht), thermodynamics (From Atkins' physical chemistry), statistical mechanics , intro to condensed matter physics and intro to computational physics (notes) and the math: calculus I and II, complex calculus, probability theory, linear algebra, ODE and PDE. This semester I'll take classical mechanics (do I have actually time to prepare for it? :rolleyes:)

I'm doing research (already 6 months) on photonics and plasmonics (with 1 poster presentasion so far) and I want to do my phd on condensed matter physics.
 
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I don't think with your coursework (especially if you end up with two terms of classical mechanics, quantum, and e/m) that your application will suffer at all because of the label "materials science". You look to have strong math, which is also good.

Keep working on the research... a publication or two is GREAT for an application. Research experience shows you now what grad school is about.

With regards to the PGRE... you'll have to rely on someone else's advice. It's been WAY too long since I've thought about the GRE (the students I presently teach are engineers, premed, or non-science students, and it's been a LONG while since I took it! :biggrin: ).
 
xmavidis said:
Are the 1st year textbooks (like Serway's) useful, or one should study all the stuff from the advanced undergraduate texts (Griffiths' e/m, Goldstein's classical mech., Shankar's quantum mech., etc)?

Yes, questions on introductory topics are a very large (even majority) portion of the Physics GRE. Due to time constraints the questions they can ask cannot be too difficult and must lend themselves to multiple choice type questions. Although there are questions over more-advanced (upper division) classes, you can still pick up a great many points from the introductory level questions. As a matter of fact, going through an intro course’s textbook (such as Serway, Young & Freedman, or Halliday, Resnick, and Walker) is an excellent way to prepare for the test.
 
I think that the PGRE is a pretty basic test, which just about scratches the subjects you learn in a upper-level undergraduate course. I agree with mrjeffy that an introductory book will really help.

Also, like all standardized tests, practicing from the previous PGRE tests will help a lot. I think that there are four practice tests released by ETS and available on the internet. Get the tests and work them out. I felt that was adequate preparation when I wrote the test.

Finally, I suggest you take the October test. The November test is a bit too close to the deadlines, and you may not get your score reports on time.
 
What to study is easy - study whatever you're weakest at. (This sounds obvious, but people seem to want to work at being even stronger at what they are already strong in. If before studying you would get 9/10 problems in topic A and 3/10 in topic B, where is the largest potential gain?)

There are some Halliday and Resnick problems on the GRE. How much time you spend on them is up to you. On the one hand, there is the point I made above. On the other hand, you don't want to lose any points to problems at this level. Remember, the easiest and the hardest problems on the GRE are worth exactly the same number of points.
 

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