PhD from US after B.Sc, M.Sc from India

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The discussion revolves around the educational pathway for aspiring theoretical physicists from India who wish to pursue advanced degrees in the US or Canada. Participants explore the implications of obtaining a B.Sc. in Physics from India, the potential for further studies in Canada, and the acceptance of international degrees by US universities.

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  • One participant expresses concern that US universities may not accept a 3-year B.Sc. from India, suggesting that a subsequent M.Sc. could enhance their application for a PhD.
  • Another participant proposes pursuing a 4-year B.Sc. in applied mathematics from Athabasca University in Canada, citing its recognition by the US government and potential benefits for admission to US universities.
  • A participant questions whether specializing in physics necessitates a B.Sc. in Physics, and seeks advice on the value of pursuing a Master's degree.
  • Some participants mention that many Indian students in graduate programs attended IITs, implying a preference for these institutions in the admissions process for graduate studies.
  • There is a suggestion that a B.Tech. may not be beneficial for securing admission to PhD programs in physics, raising concerns about the relevance of certain degrees.
  • One participant discusses the importance of professional accreditation in North America, suggesting that degrees from technology institutes may not be favored in the job market.

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Participants express differing views on the acceptance of Indian degrees by Canadian and US universities, the necessity of specific degree paths, and the relevance of professional accreditation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the best educational route.

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Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the acceptance of international degrees, funding opportunities for Master's programs, and the implications of different educational backgrounds on PhD admissions. There are also references to specific institutions and their perceived reputations, but no consensus on their effectiveness or relevance.

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I want to be a theoretical physicist. I have great interest in astronomy and want to pursue the same. Because of lesser research opportunities in India, I want to move out to US in the future. I have just given my board exams. I intend to do my B.Sc. Physics Honours from India. I have read that most of the US universities don't accept the India's 3 year long Bachelor's degree in comparison to their 4 year long degrees. If I follow up my B.Sc. Honours degree with a M.Sc. degree, can I apply for PhD from leading US universities? I have also read that in some countries Masters and PhD degrees are funded by the government (like Canada). So, can I take this route of pursuing my B.Sc from India, followed by Masters in a country like Canada? If I also do my PhD from Canada, what are the chances of doing research at a good place in the US? Your guidance will be extremely valuable to me.
 
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androbada525 said:
I want to be a theoretical physicist. I have great interest in astronomy and want to pursue the same. Because of lesser research opportunities in India, I want to move out to US in the future. I have just given my board exams. I intend to do my B.Sc. Physics Honours from India. I have read that most of the US universities don't accept the India's 3 year long Bachelor's degree in comparison to their 4 year long degrees. If I follow up my B.Sc. Honours degree with a M.Sc. degree, can I apply for PhD from leading US universities? I have also read that in some countries Masters and PhD degrees are funded by the government (like Canada). So, can I take this route of pursuing my B.Sc from India, followed by Masters in a country like Canada? If I also do my PhD from Canada, what are the chances of doing research at a good place in the US? Your guidance will be extremely valuable to me.
From www.athabascau.ca : "Students who hold a recognized first degree and who wish to obtain an AU undergraduate degree in a different subject area, (...) may transfer in up to 50% (60 crédits) into the four-year degree program, based on course work in the first degree that is applicable." _______________ I suggest you a 4-year B.Sc. in applied mathematics, at AU (only distance learning; reasonable fees). Athabasca University was the first "open university" founded in Canada. AU has always been the only public Canadian university recognized by the Government of USA. Its dean or registrarian will advice/mentor you: also your diploma would be accompanied _ a donation will secure the process_ with a letter of reference which will help your admission in a university most favarable for careers in theoretical physics. Research agencies are reluctant to mention which university is their target; many things need to be kept secret, for security and by influence of the CIA, FBI, NAS & NASA.
 
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From www.athabascau.ca : "Students who hold a recognized first degree and who wish to obtain an AU undergraduate degree in a different subject area, (...) may transfer in up to 50% (60 crédits) into the four-year degree program, based on course work in the first degree that is applicable." _______________ I suggest you a 4-year B.Sc. in applied mathematics, at AU (only distance learning; reasonable fees). Athabasca University was the first "open university" founded in Canada. AU has always been the only public Canadian university recognized by the Government of USA. Its dean or registrarian will advice/mentor you: also your diploma would be accompanied _ a donation will secure the process_ with a letter of reference which will help your admission in a university most favarable for careers in theoretical physics. Research agencies are reluctant to mention which university is their target; many things need to be kept secret, for security and by influence of the CIA, FBI, NAS & NASA.

That post gave me a lot of info. But, if i want to do specialisation in physics, shouldn't i take up B.Sc. physics? And what about the Masters? Do you recommend doing that? Lastly, i live in India. So, what are the chances of a Canadian university accepting my B.Sc. degree and funding my Masters too?
 
All of the Indian students I know in grad school attended one of the IITs. I believe they did graduate with a masters.
 
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radium said:
All of the Indian students I know in grad school attended one of the IITs. I believe they did graduate with a masters.
They would have done their B.Tech. from the IITs then. It has already been mentioned that if you want to do PhD in physics, B.Tech. will be of no use in securing admission to the grad schools
Does anyone else have knowledge regarding this subject? I am running out of time.
 
androbada525 said:
That post gave me a lot of info. But, if i want to do specialisation in physics, shouldn't i take up B.Sc. physics? And what about the Masters? Do you recommend doing that? Lastly, i live in India. So, what are the chances of a Canadian university accepting my B.Sc. degree and funding my Masters too?
If your financial ressources permit, once you get the AU bachelor in appl. math, move to Alberta and join in the professional order of mathematician-teachers. Then enter in a bachelor in physics engineering program, preferably in Canada. Join in an order of physicists or engineers in Canada and in the USA. Then, from India, at distance education service of Lehigh (small but reknown american university) do a M.Ing. mechanics or (engineering-oriented) math (only 30 credits: very high fees) or else. Then get to know with an american agency of personal, and stick to it all your lifetime.
 
They did their bachelors at the same IIT. I assume it's similar to Europe where you get a bachelors and then go straight into graduate coursework. For example, at Cambridge your first free years are spent doing undergrad work and the last is done doing graduate coursework. You end up graduating with a masters.
 
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They would have done their B.Tech. from the IITs then. It has already been mentioned that if you want to do PhD in physics, B.Tech. will be of no use in securing admission to the grad schools
Does anyone else have knowledge regarding this subject? I am running out of time.
In North America the professionnal orders of technicians or/and technologists aren't favored by the Law. In the smallest laboratoy and in the american multinational institute of researches, any finalized design/ project, construction or experimental/ industrial process, requires the approval & site inspection(s) of a professional engineer, even in physics. So, its better to avoy the institutes of technology.
 

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