Funding PhD Research: Personal Experiences

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The discussion revolves around the various ways to fund PhD research in physics, focusing on personal experiences and insights from participants. It addresses the financial aspects of pursuing a PhD, including tuition, living expenses, and the types of funding available, such as assistantships and fellowships.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that funding for PhD research typically comes from professors or supervisors, and if scholarships or fellowships are not obtained, students may need to rely on personal savings for tuition and living expenses.
  • It is noted that physics PhD students often have their tuition covered and receive a stipend, but the amount varies significantly based on the institution and available opportunities, with some offers ranging from ~$22k to $37k.
  • Participants outline conditions under which a PhD program can be fully funded, including the school's location, program strength, and the student's desirability to the institution, with funding sources including teaching assistantships, research assistantships, fellowships, and scholarships.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential loss of funding if a research assistantship is tied to a professor's grant, which could impact the waiver of tuition and fees.
  • Some participants clarify that students do not directly request research grants; instead, faculty members obtain grants that may allocate funds for graduate students, depending on the advisor's resources.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of "funding," with some participants emphasizing a broader understanding that encompasses all financial support for the program rather than just research grants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on funding sources and conditions, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach or the specifics of funding availability. Multiple competing perspectives on the nature of funding and its implications for students remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that funding availability can depend on various factors, including the specific school, program strength, and individual circumstances, which may not be universally applicable.

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How does one fund their PhD research? Do you live very poor? I want to study to be a physicist but I kind of a have a time frame to make some money within 4-5 years (I'm currently doing undergraduate studies). How does it all work? I just want insight from personal experiences.

Thanks
 
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Daveyzombie said:
How does one fund their PhD research?
From your profs or supervisor. If you don't get scholarship or are not entitled to a fellowship, "only" tuition and living expenses that you have to take out from your own saving.
 
Daveyzombie said:
How does one fund their PhD research? Do you live very poor? I want to study to be a physicist but I kind of a have a time frame to make some money within 4-5 years (I'm currently doing undergraduate studies). How does it all work? I just want insight from personal experiences.

Thanks

Physics PhD students generally have their tuition paid for and are also given a stipend for living expenses, but how much is highly dependent on the school, program, and what fellowships/opportunities you get. I was offered a stipend from 12 graduate schools, and none of them offered me a stipend that I felt I would not be able to live on given the local cost of living - the 12-month offers ranged from ~$22k to $37k. You can also check out the applicant profiles at physicsgre.com, where many students post the financial details of their offers as well.
 
Under the following conditions:

(1) The school is in the US
(2) The school has a strong enough physics program worth attending
(3) The school really wants you

then your PhD program can be fully funded in that you can receive

(1) Full waiver of tuition and fees
(2) Funding comprising one or more of the following:
(a) Teaching assistantship
(b) Research assistantship
(c) Fellowship
(d) Scholarship

The funding should cover all living expenses (food, housing, clothing), books and supplies, and some extras. How your funding is allocated will vary a lot with the individual school. Some examples: Fellowships are often offerred to the top candidates only. In some schools, research assistantships are not available for incoming students. The default typically is a teaching assistantship. Once a professor has accepted you as a thesis student, the support typically is a research assistantship.

Note that the full waiver of tuition and fees is often tied to the grant of a teaching or research assistantship or fellowship; if you lose your grant, you will also lose the waiver. The situation in which this sometimes occurs is if you have a research assistantship and your professor runs out of grant money. You then may have to fall back on a teaching assistantship, which takes time from your research; in some instances, the department may rescue you with reserve funds.

So, you should consider schools that

(1) Fully fund you
(2) Have large undergrad physics enrollments that require grad teaching assistants
(3) Have research professors with strong research grants
(4) Have strong departmental reserves (e.g., alumni funds) to help bail you out in case your advisor goes broke.

Some grad students also apply for fellowships and internships from sources external to the school.
 
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Daveyzombie said:
How does one fund their PhD research? Do you live very poor? I want to study to be a physicist but I kind of a have a time frame to make some money within 4-5 years (I'm currently doing undergraduate studies). How does it all work? I just want insight from personal experiences.

Thanks

Please read Part VI of the "So You Want To Be A Physicist" essay.

Secondly, you do not get funding for your research, i.e. you do not request a research grant. The faculty members of your school are the ones who do. The research grants that they get will have allocations to support one or more students, usually graduate students, but in many cases, also undergraduate students. So if you have already chosen an advisor to work for, and if your advisor has research grant money to support you as a RA, then that is how you get "funded" to do your research.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Please read Part VI of the "So You Want To Be A Physicist" essay.

Secondly, you do not get funding for your research, i.e. you do not request a research grant. The faculty members of your school are the ones who do. The research grants that they get will have allocations to support one or more students, usually graduate students, but in many cases, also undergraduate students. So if you have already chosen an advisor to work for, and if your advisor has research grant money to support you as a RA, then that is how you get "funded" to do your research.

Zz.

I believe that the OP is using "funding" in the generic broad sense of "sources of money to pay for the program", not a specialized narrow sense of "research grant money". In my post, I was also using the generic sense.
 
CrysPhys said:
I believe that the OP is using "funding" in the generic broad sense of "sources of money to pay for the program", not a specialized narrow sense of "research grant money". In my post, I was also using the generic sense.

I've been here long enough to know that there can be a range of intentions based on something like this. Besides, including the link that I gave, I covered both scenarios.

Zz.
 

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