PhD in particle physics/ cosmology in US

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The discussion centers around the considerations and challenges faced by a student from Hong Kong who is planning to apply for PhD programs in particle physics and cosmology in the US. The scope includes application strategies, academic qualifications, and funding concerns.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses concern about the acceptance of a 3-year undergraduate degree in US graduate programs, suggesting that research experience or publications may mitigate this.
  • Some participants recommend exploring European universities due to similarities in educational structure.
  • Advice is given to utilize resources like gradschoolshopper.com and to research faculty interests through recent journal articles.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of GRE verbal scores for non-native English speakers, with some suggesting that these scores may be less critical.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial implications of applying to multiple programs, with suggestions to limit applications based on affordability.
  • One participant mentions that while an MPhil or MSc is not required, it could serve as a beneficial transition to a PhD program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that research experience is important for applicants with a 3-year undergraduate degree, but there is no consensus on the necessity of an MPhil or MSc. The discussion about GRE scores and their weight in admissions remains unresolved, with differing opinions on their importance for non-native speakers.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that application fees can be a significant barrier, influencing the number of programs the original poster can apply to. There is also mention of varying standards for English proficiency tests like IELTS/TOEFL among institutions.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective graduate students in physics, particularly those from non-US educational backgrounds, may find this discussion relevant as it addresses application strategies and considerations specific to their circumstances.

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Hello folks, I am from Hong Kong studying in a university in HK, major in Physics. Next year will be my final year of undergrad (3 yr undergrad program) and I am considering applying for graduate schools in the US.

My major research interests lie on particle physics and particle physics applied to cosmology. (some interest in string theory, but sounds too advanced for me)

I am now looking for PhD programs offered by US universities which are strong in these areas.

My GPA is good (4 out of 4.3) and I am now taking a research project on cosmology.
One shortcoming of mine is that I am expecting a poor performance on GRE verbal, due to the lack of preparation time: I will take GRE general 2 weeks later, while my revision started in June. Probably I will take it again at the end of September. And I am not a native English speaker.

So can anyone give me some advice on which institutes to apply for?
I think I am going to apply for 6 institutes: 3 top ones, 2 mid-rank and 1 safe.

And I also wonder if US institutes generally require a high verbal/ analytical writing score for Physics PhD applicants (non-native English speakers)

And I also heard that Physics graduate students generally have all their tuition fees, daily expenses and health insurance covered by means of TA/ RAship, studentships...
So does it mean that money is the thing I don't need to worried about at this stage?

Thanks in advance for your help :smile:
 
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gradschoolshopper.com is a good place to get ideas.
 
I believe colleges in the US are not very keen on taking students having a 3 year undergrad degree. They make exceptions if you have done plenty of research or/and had papers published. I would recommend looking at some European universities along with ones in the US, since they follow a similar education pattern (3 year undergrad, 2 year Masters, 3-4 years PhD).
 
cedricyu803 said:
Hello folks, I am from Hong Kong studying in a university in HK, major in Physics. Next year will be my final year of undergrad (3 yr undergrad program) and I am considering applying for graduate schools in the US.

My major research interests lie on particle physics and particle physics applied to cosmology. (some interest in string theory, but sounds too advanced for me)

I am now looking for PhD programs offered by US universities which are strong in these areas.

My GPA is good (4 out of 4.3) and I am now taking a research project on cosmology.
One shortcoming of mine is that I am expecting a poor performance on GRE verbal, due to the lack of preparation time: I will take GRE general 2 weeks later, while my revision started in June. Probably I will take it again at the end of September. And I am not a native English speaker.

So can anyone give me some advice on which institutes to apply for?
I think I am going to apply for 6 institutes: 3 top ones, 2 mid-rank and 1 safe.

And I also wonder if US institutes generally require a high verbal/ analytical writing score for Physics PhD applicants (non-native English speakers)

And I also heard that Physics graduate students generally have all their tuition fees, daily expenses and health insurance covered by means of TA/ RAship, studentships...
So does it mean that money is the thing I don't need to worried about at this stage?

Thanks in advance for your help :smile:

Hi. Like someone else said, gradschoolshopper is what you're looking for. Also, although a bit more time consuming, browse through recent journal articles in the subfields you are interested and write down the names and institutions of articles you find interesting, then head over to their department pages.

I had a senior adviser that did his undergrad in HK and then did phd in the states. Didn't do a MS but I'm not sure if his BS was 4 years or 3 years. Unless you come from certain institutes in India where American schools explicitly require it, an MS is unnecessary (but helpful) since you probably have all the coursework (a list of courses would be helpful).

If you can afford it, I would add 2-4 more mid-ranks or "safes", but that's just me.

I think the verbal part of the GRE might be taken into less consideration for non-native English speakers but don't quote me on it. Most schools have a fairly medium-high standard requirement for the IELTS/TOEFL for foreigners so I think they would rely more on what you score there to assess your language skills.
 
First thanks to Sentin3l for providing a nice website for me to look at.

For dreamLord's comment, I think following the European system we take the same advanced ug math and phys courses like US students do. The transcript will tell. The only disadvantageous is that we have one less year to do undergrad research. But we do manage to take some research projects.
But I do agree that getting an MPhil/ MSc, though not a requirement, might be a good bridge from ug to PhD: I will apply for local MPhil as well.

As for Lavabug's comment: I am now looking at some research profiles of phys faculty of a few universities. I am looking at the descriptions of their current research interests. I will take your suggestion of looking at articles on the areas I am interested in and look for the institutes.

I don't think I can afford to apply for more than 6 institutes: the application fees are high for me. Maybe I will pick 2 top ones, 4 mid-rank /safe.

Thanks very much for all your help.
 

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