Photoelectric effect and light polarization in Wikipedia

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The discussion centers on the photoelectric effect, particularly the relationship between the direction of emitted electrons and the polarization of incident light. Participants explore experimental results and theoretical implications regarding electron emission directionality in relation to light polarization, with references to literature on the topic.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a claim from Wikipedia that emitted electrons from the photoelectric effect peak in the direction of the electric field of linearly polarized light.
  • Others cite Evans' "The Atomic Nucleus," noting that at low energies, photoelectron direction is peaked along the electric field vector, which is orthogonal to the photon's direction of propagation.
  • There is a question regarding whether Evans' reference pertains to the photoelectric effect on solid surfaces or photoionization in atomic gases.
  • One participant raises concerns about the vagueness of the experimental setup mentioned in the Wikipedia article, questioning whether it involves collecting all photoelectrons or a momentum distribution curve.
  • Another participant discusses the complexities of photoemission processes, suggesting that factors such as the material's band structure and crystal orientation can influence the emission characteristics.
  • References are made to specific plots and formulas in Evans' work, indicating a Gaussian-like distribution of electron emission angles at certain photon energies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the experimental results and the implications of the polarization direction on electron emission. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the experimental conditions and the applicability of the referenced literature.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the clarity of the experimental setup described in the Wikipedia article and the potential dependence on the type of photocathode used (single-crystal vs. polycrystal). The discussion highlights the complexity of photoemission processes and the need for careful consideration of various factors influencing the results.

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The wikipedia page on photoelectric effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect

talks of a 5th experimental result, which I hadn't heard before:
"The direction distribution of emitted electrons peaks in the direction of polarization (the direction of the electric field) of the incident light, if it is linearly polarized."

Is that true?
 
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In Evans, "The Atomic Nucleus", it states that at low energies, the photoelectron direction is peaked along the electric field vector, which is orthogonal to the photon's direction of propagation.
 
Bob S said:
In Evans, "The Atomic Nucleus", it states that at low energies, the photoelectron direction is peaked along the electric field vector, which is orthogonal to the photon's direction of propagation.
Don't have that book. Does he refer to real photoelectric effect (light on a solid surface) or to photoionization (light through an atomic gas)?
 
lightarrow said:
The wikipedia page on photoelectric effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect

talks of a 5th experimental result, which I hadn't heard before:
"The direction distribution of emitted electrons peaks in the direction of polarization (the direction of the electric field) of the incident light, if it is linearly polarized."

Is that true?

That passage is a bit vague. Is the experiment simply collecting ALL of the photoelectrons as a function of angle of emission? Or are they doing something similar to a momentum distribution curve?

If we assume that the linear polarization is parallel to the surface of the photocathode, then there are several issues when dealing with this. First is the question on whether we're dealing with a single-crystal photocathode, or a polycrystal. If that is the case, then the most naive answer to your question is "yes". One can then consider that there are electrons in the material moving in all directions. So when light with a certain direction of the E-field vector hits the surface, electrons in that direction would tend to be given the energy more "efficiently" than those already moving in other directions. Since photoemission preserves the in-plane momentum of the photoelectrons, these photoelectrons will be emitted more favorably, and therefore, have roughly the same direction as the polarization. The EXACT momentum (i.e. in-plane plus out of plane) depends on the photon energy.

Now, if this is a single-crystal, then it depends very much on the band structure of the material. If a particular direction is allowed by symmetry, then it will be the same as above. But if it isn't, or if that direction isn't that favorable for that band transition (i.e. there's an energy gap in that direction or if only an indirect transition is allowed), then what is written above doesn't hold true anymore.

Photoemission is solids is a very complex and rich process, so much so that we can probe the properties of the material (the photocathode). The standard photoelectric effect is an extremely simple and naive scenario of the photoemission process. Once one tries to peel away at the simplicity, then many other factors are involved in determining the characteristics of the photoelectron spectrum.

Zz.
 
Thanks, ZapperZ.
 
From Bob S
In Evans, "The Atomic Nucleus", it states that at low energies, the photoelectron direction is peaked along the electric field vector, which is orthogonal to the photon's direction of propagation.
lightarrow said:
Don't have that book. Does he refer to real photoelectric effect (light on a solid surface) or to photoionization (light through an atomic gas)?
R. D. Evans has a plot of electron angular distribution relative to photon direction at 20 KeV photon energy showing a Gaussian-like curve with a max at about 80 degress wrt direction of photon, with half max points at about 40 degrees and 120 degrees. He states that the photons "tend to be ejected in the direction of the electric field". He refers to his paper with C. M. Davisson in Reviews of Modern Physics vol 24, page 79 (1952). See abstract and access to article at
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/RMP/v24/i2/p79_1
He also refers to (and plots) Fischer's nonrelativistic formula from Ann. Physik vol 8, page 821 (1931)
 
Bob S said:
From Bob S
In Evans, "The Atomic Nucleus", it states that at low energies, the photoelectron direction is peaked along the electric field vector, which is orthogonal to the photon's direction of propagation.

R. D. Evans has a plot of electron angular distribution relative to photon direction at 20 KeV photon energy showing a Gaussian-like curve with a max at about 80 degress wrt direction of photon, with half max points at about 40 degrees and 120 degrees. He states that the photons "tend to be ejected in the direction of the electric field". He refers to his paper with C. M. Davisson in Reviews of Modern Physics vol 24, page 79 (1952). See abstract and access to article at
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/RMP/v24/i2/p79_1
He also refers to (and plots) Fischer's nonrelativistic formula from Ann. Physik vol 8, page 821 (1931)
Thank you, Bob S.
 

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