Photoelectric Effect - Energy Level (hydrogen)

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect in the context of a photon striking a sodium plate with a specified work function. The original poster seeks to determine the minimum energy level of a hydrogen atom that can be ionized by this photon and the resulting speed of the released electron.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of "ionize" and its distinction from "excite" in atomic terms. The original poster attempts to relate energy levels of hydrogen to the energy required for ionization, questioning the correct approach to find the minimum energy level n.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the definitions of ionization and excitation, with some participants providing insights into the energy levels of hydrogen. There is a recognition that the energy level at 0 eV corresponds to the removal of an electron, and the original poster expresses understanding of the relationship between energy levels and ionization.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods they can employ. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of energy levels and their implications for ionization.

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Homework Statement


Consider a photon that is barely capable of causing a photoelectric effect when it strikes a sodium plate having a work function of 2.55eV.

Homework Equations


Find the minimum energy level n for a hydrogen atom that can be ionized by such a photon, and the speed of the released electron far from the nucleus.

Can someone explain to me what is this "ionize" term used in this question mean, because I don't know how to proceed?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm thinking "ionize" here means "exciting the atom" and if that is so, Ef - Ei = 2.55eV.
Also I first found out the energy levels for hydrogen : -13.6eV, -3.4eV, -1.51eV, -0.85eV...

So I'm thinking that I need to find the correct pair of Ef - Ei that will give 2.55eV so that I can determine the minimum energy level n for the hydrogen atom.

Please correct me where I'm wrong.
 
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'excite an atom'....giving energy to an atom so that an electron makes a transition from one level to a higher level;

'ionise an atom'....giving energy to an atom to REMOVE an electron from an atom;
 
grzz said:
'excite an atom'....giving energy to an atom so that an electron makes a transition from one level to a higher level;

'ionise an atom'....giving energy to an atom to REMOVE an electron from an atom;

Yea, but even then, I'm still not sure how to approach this question. Any hint?
 
jothisadhana said:
... Find the minimum energy level n for a hydrogen atom that can be ionized by such a photon, and the speed of the released electron far from the nucleus...

...The attempt at a solution[/b]
... Ef - Ei = 2.55eV.
Also I first found out the energy levels for hydrogen : -13.6eV, -3.4eV, -1.51eV, -0.85eV...

So I'm thinking that I need to find the correct pair of Ef - Ei that will give 2.55eV so that I can determine the minimum energy level n for the hydrogen atom...

You are on the right track except that you need to consider (Ef - Ei) where Ef = 0eV.
That is you have to find the lowest energy level so that an electron from that energy level, once it gains the 2.55eV, is REMOVED from the atom. Any excess energy appears as KE of this electron.
 
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grzz said:
You are on the right track except that you need to consider (Ef - Ei) where Ef = 0eV.
That is you have to find the lowest energy level so that an electron from that energy level, once it gains the 2.55eV, is REMOVED from the atom. Any excess energy appears as KE of this electron.

Oh, so am I right to say that at the energy level, 0eV, the electron will be removed from the atom?

If this is so, then I understand it as that, the minimum energy level n in this case would be n=3.
 
jothisadhana said:
Oh, so am I right to say that at the energy level, 0eV, the electron will be removed from the atom?

If this is so, then I understand it as that, the minimum energy level n in this case would be n=3.

'Yes' to both quesions.
 
grzz said:
'Yes' to both quesions.

Thank you so much for the explanations! :smile:
 

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