Photoelectric Emission: Why Does Number of Electrons Decrease?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of photoelectric emission, specifically addressing the observation that the number of electrons emitted per unit time decreases when the frequency of radiation increases while keeping the intensity constant. The scope includes conceptual clarification and technical reasoning related to the principles of photoelectric effect.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of "constant intensity" and its implications for the number of emitted electrons.
  • It is noted that intensity is defined as the number of photons arriving per unit area per unit time, suggesting that if intensity is constant, the number of emitted electrons should also remain constant.
  • Others argue that increasing frequency results in higher energy per photon (given by the equation E=hf), which implies that fewer photons can be present if the total energy (intensity) remains constant.
  • A participant highlights that the number of photoelectrons liberated per unit time is directly related to the number of photons incident on the surface.
  • There is a request for a comprehensive explanation to clarify the confusion surrounding the relationship between frequency, intensity, and the number of emitted electrons.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between intensity, frequency, and the number of emitted electrons. While some agree on the definitions and implications, others remain confused, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of intensity and the relationship between photon energy and the number of emitted electrons. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these concepts.

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Hello
This is a question regarding photoelectric emission.
When frequency of the radiation increases at a constant intensity, the number of electrons emitted per unit time decreases. Why is that so?

p.s. I need an answer ample for Alevel purposes. Not too complex that is.
 
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ay2k said:
Hello
This is a question regarding photoelectric emission.
When frequency of the radiation increases at a constant intensity, the number of electrons emitted per unit time decreases. Why is that so?

p.s. I need an answer ample for Alevel purposes. Not too complex that is.
1. what does it mean constant intensity?
2. which is the energy of a single photon?

When you answer those question you quite authomatically have the answer to your question.
 
Can you please explain it?
I mean no. of electrons per unit time is affected by changing intensity, which has been kept constant. And frequnecy usually affects max Ek,not the current?
So why is it so?
 
while taking it your way.
1) Intensity is no. of photons arriving per unit area per unit time. So if intensity is constant, the no of electrons emitted per unit time should be const.
2) Energy of a single photone is hf. So if frequency is increased, Ek should be affected, but not the no of electrons / time.??
 
ay2k said:
Intensity is no. of photons arriving per unit area per unit time.

Usually, "intensity" of light means the amount of energy (e.g. joules) arriving per unit area per unit time.
 
now I am confused...someone with a comprehensive explanation to the original question please?
 
ay2k said:
now I am confused...someone with a comprehensive explanation to the original question please?
Referring to jt's comment:

Intensity is a measure of the energy incident on a surface per unit area per unit time. And as you correctly say, the frequency is directly proportional to the energy per photon.

Therefore, if the frequency of the light is increased, this means that the energy that each photon carries is increased. However, since the intensity or total energy per unit time and area remains constant, it follows that the number of photons incident on the surface must decrease since each photon carries more energy. Ergo, the number of photo-electrons liberated per unit time (current) will also decrease.

I hope that clears things up.
 
All you have to realize is that intensity is not the same as the number of photons. The number of electrons liberated depends on the number of photons, but if the intensity is the same while increasing the frequency, that means fewer photons and therefore fewer liberated electrons.
 
right...
thankyou everyone...
 

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