Photon Interaction: A Comprehensive Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interactions of photons with matter, specifically focusing on processes such as absorption, emission, and refraction. Participants explore the implications of these interactions in terms of energy conservation and the nature of photons during these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where a photon interacts with matter, suggesting that this interaction leads to energy level transitions in electrons, resulting in the emission of lower-energy photons.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of refraction and proposes that emitted photons can travel in different directions than absorbed ones, introducing the concept of fluorescence as a related process.
  • A different participant emphasizes that the discussion may pertain to photon transport in solids and notes the importance of lattice vibrations on transport properties, clarifying that refraction involves the delay of wavefronts of many photons rather than a single photon.
  • Another contribution highlights the ambiguity in identifying photons, suggesting that processes can be viewed as either changing a photon or as an absorption and re-emission process, referencing Huygens' principle to support this view.
  • This participant also advises against definite identification of photons, arguing that it is meaningless to assert whether the same photon is involved in the interaction or if it is a different one.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of photon interactions, particularly regarding whether to consider the processes as changes to a single photon or as separate absorption and emission events. There is no consensus on the interpretation of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on complex concepts such as energy conservation, the role of lattice vibrations, and the implications of Huygens' principle, which may not be fully resolved within the thread.

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I have read so much, please put me straight on "photon interaction"

1. My photon hits matter.

2. It interacts with the atoms of that matter.

3. The electron (say) energy level transition (High->Low) spawns photon(s) of lower energy levels?

4. My photon is now other photon(s) but energy conserved ?

5. In terms of refraction, is this what is the happening??
 
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what do you mean by refraction?

I think the emitted photon can travel in a different direction then the absorbed one.

The process your asking about is called fluorescence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
 
vivitar02 said:
I have read so much, please put me straight on "photon interaction"

1. My photon hits matter.

2. It interacts with the atoms of that matter.

3. The electron (say) energy level transition (High->Low) spawns photon(s) of lower energy levels?

4. My photon is now other photon(s) but energy conserved ?

5. In terms of refraction, is this what is the happening??

It appears that you are asking about photon transport in a solid, or at least, not in some isolated atomic gas. You might want to start by reading an entry in our FAQ thread in the general physics forum. Read the entry on the influences of lattice vibrations (phonons) on transport properties.

"Refraction" has something to do with the delay in the wavefronts of LARGE number of photons, not just a single photon. This delay manifests itself when you come in at an angle at the interface of two medium with different index of refraction.

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You can think of various processes either as changing the given photon or as an absorption and re-emission process. The thing to remember is that photons and other quanta do not have serial numbers to tell us if when we see one go in, it is the same one or a different one coming out.

Huygens principle says we can treat wave propagation as if it were a continual absorption re-emission process. There is no physical difference in distinguishing between saying "this photon recoiled off the mirror" vs "this photon was absorbed by the mirror and another emitted".

We should in general avoid definite identification of photons. Never speak of "the photon" or "my photon" only speak of "a photon" e.g.

"A photon went in(to the prism) with momentum p, a photon came out with momentum q."

Saying it is the same one or saying it is is a different one, are both statements about that which we cannot observe and so that which is meaningless in science.
 

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