Photon Reflection & Randomness - Is it Correct?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of photons when interacting with glass, specifically focusing on the randomness of their reflection and transmission. It explores concepts related to causality and the implications of identical particles in quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the behavior of photons, whether reflected or transmitted, is random due to their identical nature.
  • Others agree with the notion of randomness but suggest that exceptions could exist under certain conditions.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of this randomness on traditional notions of causality, with some arguing that causality is undermined when particles are identical.
  • Some participants mention that there are interpretations of quantum mechanics where causality is maintained, though uncertainty remains about the existence of a true root "cause".

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the randomness of photon behavior, but there are competing views regarding the implications for causality and whether exceptions to the randomness can exist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about causality or the interpretations of quantum mechanics that could affect the understanding of photon behavior.

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If I fire photons at a glass, some will be reflected back and some will go through. Which ones is by deifnition random, sincee all photons are exactly alike. Is this correct?
 
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skydivephil said:
If I fire photons at a glass, some will be reflected back and some will go through. Which ones is by deifnition random, sincee all photons are exactly alike. Is this correct?

Yes. exactly. Obviously, you could create exceptions if you had to. But the general rule is that photons prepared identically will behave at random at there is no underlying explanation for behavior of an individual.
 
DrChinese said:
Yes. exactly. Obviously, you could create exceptions if you had to. But the general rule is that photons prepared identically will behave at random at there is no underlying explanation for behavior of an individual.

and hence traditional notions of causality are undemrined as there can be no cause if the underlying particles are identical?
 
skydivephil said:
and hence traditional notions of causality are undemrined as there can be no cause if the underlying particles are identical?

I would say so. There are interpretations in which causality is maintained, but even in these situations I am not sure you can ascribe a true root "cause".
 

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