Photons vs. Protons in Radiotherapy - Why photons?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of photon therapy and proton therapy in the context of radiotherapy, focusing on their respective advantages and disadvantages. Participants explore various factors influencing the choice of treatment, including cost, feasibility, and biological effects, as well as the implications of Bragg's peak and scatter effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that photon therapy may have advantages over proton therapy in terms of skin sparing potential, as x-ray radiation at the skin is lower than for proton therapy.
  • Others mention that the cost of proton therapy equipment is significantly higher than that of photon therapy, making it less feasible for community hospitals and cancer centers.
  • It is noted that while protons have certain physical advantages, their biological effects, particularly with higher linear energy transfer (LET), present both benefits and drawbacks.
  • Some participants argue that the precision of proton therapy can be a disadvantage, as small shifts in target position can lead to significant differences in dose delivery, unlike photon therapy.
  • There is a recognition that protons may have specific applications where they are superior, such as in treating certain pediatric brain tumors, but the overall justification for widespread use remains debated.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited number of proton therapy cases, suggesting that more research is needed to fully understand its effects and applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the superiority of one therapy over the other. While some acknowledge specific advantages of protons, others emphasize the practical limitations and challenges associated with their use.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific clinical scenarios, the variability in patient anatomy and movement, and the evolving nature of evidence regarding the efficacy of proton therapy compared to photon therapy.

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Something has been bugging me ever since I learned about Bragg's peak (and how it compares to x-ray attenuation) a few years ago...

I understand there are probably advantages that photon therapy has over proton therapy, but what are they? Cost? Feasibility?

Probably a dumb question, but thanks in advance
 
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There's more to it than Bragg's Peak. Taken from the wiki page on Proton therapy: Comparisons with other treatments;
Wikipedia said:
X-ray therapy may be described as having more "skin sparing potential" than proton therapy: x-ray radiation at the skin and at very small depths is lower than for proton therapy. One study estimates that passively scattered proton fields have a slightly higher entrance dose at the skin (~75%) compared to therapeutic megavoltage (MeV) photon beams (~60%). X-ray radiation dose falls off gradually, while tissues deeper in the body than the tumor receive essentially no radiation during proton therapy. Thus, x-ray therapy causes less damage to the skin and surface tissues, and proton therapy causes less damage to tissues beyond the target.
 
Interesting, I didn't consider scatter effects. Thanks for the reply. I guess I could have found the info easily enough had I Googled a little more intelligently :p
 
Mirin said:
Interesting, I didn't consider scatter effects. Thanks for the reply. I guess I could have found the info easily enough had I Googled a little more intelligently :p

No worries, I don't mind having to read up on something myself when it's interesting.
 
Cost is definitely a factor. Most radiotherapy is given in community hospitals and cancer centers. Dropping 150-200 million dollars on the equipment required for proton radiotherapy and a place to keep/use it is just unrealistic and way out of reach for those sorts of places in almost all cases. You can buy a pair of photon/electron-producing linear accelerators and shield a couple of rooms for their use for less than 10% of that.
 
EricVT said:
Cost is definitely a factor. Most radiotherapy is given in community hospitals and cancer centers. Dropping 150-200 million dollars on the equipment required for proton radiotherapy and a place to keep/use it is just unrealistic and way out of reach for those sorts of places in almost all cases. You can buy a pair of photon/electron-producing linear accelerators and shield a couple of rooms for their use for less than 10% of that.

^^^^^ This

Also, I don't think there have been enough proton cases to be sure of all the effects. Physically speaking, they do have their advantages. Radiobiologically, higher LET radiation (like protons) have their advantages and disadvantages as well. The LINAC is still versatile and can treat in various modalities (electrons for superficial tumors, total body and total skin irradiations)
 
Protons have some excellent applications (some Pedi brain tumors, for example), but they also have some real issues. Cost was mentioned, but with the crashing sound of bank vaults closing the price to install has tumbled in a huge way. The 2010 ASTRO was driving nails in the proton coffin. Based on the "new" concept of "evidence based medicine", the justification for broad use of protons just isn't there. The very benefit of proton depth vs. dose control is also its weakness. With protons a shift of a few millimeters can mean the difference between delivering 100% and 10%, whereas with photons it could be 100% dropping to 90%. Targets in phantoms can be treated well, target structures and organs in live people move, people move, etc., E.g. the chance to have a geometric miss goes way up with protons.

Do proton centers need to exist? Probably yes. There are applications where they are clearly superior. However, the cost of treatment, cost of installation, technical staff, professional staff, etc., should have them located regionally, and probably subsidized. Yes, subsidized, since the clinical uses would be limited and the costs are high. Additionally, there would likely be significant further research that may one day improve the indications for its use.
 

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