Physical interpretation of one of Hamilton's equations

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The discussion centers on the physical interpretation of Hamilton's equations, specifically equation 1.25 from Liboff's "Quantum Mechanics." The user seeks clarification on the centripetal force factor, questioning its reduction to mv²/r, and the inclusion of the moment arm in the torque expression. The user realizes that the centripetal force arises from motion in the phi direction at constant r and theta, leading to a better understanding of the torque calculation involving the cross product of vectors.

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I've attached a picture from a passage of my book (Liboff, Quantum Mechanics) with which I am having difficulty. Specifically, equation 1.25 claims to possesses a certripetal force factor (in the text underneith) and a moment arm factor. I see both of these terms present. However, shouldn't the centripetal force factor reduce to mv2/r? Also, i assume the moment arm is included because torque is formally (clasically) r x F. However, here θ denotes the polar angle, and so rcos(θ) is the z-component of r. As a result, I don't see how this expression amounts to the torque. Can someone clarify this for me?


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Okay, I may have made some progress already:

For everything below, phi = σ.

In this case, mv2/r is equal to m(rσ)2/r = mrσ2. Now, r x F = |r| |F| sin(ζ), where ζ is the angle between r and F. But this must mean here that sin(θ)cos(θ) = sin(ζ), and this is (perhaps?) what I don't see.

**Upon second thought, this centripetal force arises from motion in the phi direction at constant r and theta, so the cross product is simply the product of the magnitudes r and F (since the angle between these two vectors is always 90 degrees). Thus, disregard my comments above.
 
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