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The discussion revolves around understanding a physics experiment related to circular motion, specifically focusing on the concepts of centrifugal and centripetal forces as they apply to a tray demonstration involving water. The original poster seeks clarification on the experiment's explanation and the forces at play.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definitions and differences between centrifugal and centripetal forces, with some questioning the nature of the forces involved in the experiment. There is a request for clarification on the upward force mentioned in the experiment's explanation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the conceptual differences between the forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding perspectives on the forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the understanding of the experiment yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of equations and express confusion about the terminology used in the experiment's explanation. There is an emphasis on the need for a clearer understanding of the forces involved, particularly in relation to the circular motion of the water.

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Homework Statement


I have to explain an experiment. The experiment can be found here: http://phun.physics.virginia.edu/demos/tray.html


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I checked the website above, and I don't quite understand it.
 
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You need to make some sort of attempt before help is given in this forum.
In this case the answer appears to be given in the link - just scroll down a bit. Don't hesitate to ask about any part of the explanation that you have trouble with!
 
Well, I don't know what the equation for centrifugal force is...i tried looking it up.

Also I don't understand what the difference between centrifugal and centripetal force is.
 
On the website's explanation, it says "The water does not fall, however, because it is experiencing an upward force due to its circular motion. This force is great enough to cancel out the force due to gravity.".

Which is the upward force? Centripetal force or centrifugal force??
 
Centrifugal vs centripetal is certainly confusing!
You have one OR the other depending on how you look at the situation.
If you look from the point of view of the object in circular motion, you have centrifugal force - outward. If you look from the point of view of the outside world (not in circular motion) there is centripetal force inward toward the center, holding the object in its circular path. The two forces are both equal to mv²/R.

I suggest you take the point of view of the water, moving in circular motion, so you have centrifugal force away from the center. When the pail is at the bottom of its path, the force is downward and it just adds to the gravity force to hold the water more strongly inside the pail. At the top of the path, the centrifugal force is upward. If it is at least as strong as gravity (pulling down), it will hold the water in the upside down pail.
 

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