Physics Major Questions: Should I Change Majors?

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The discussion revolves around a physics major's contemplation of changing their major due to dissatisfaction with the teaching approach and perceived reductionism in physics. The scope includes personal experiences, educational philosophy, and potential alternatives in related fields such as chemistry and biology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses discouragement with the physics curriculum, feeling it focuses too much on problem-solving rather than understanding the fundamental nature of physical laws.
  • Another participant suggests that mastering problem-solving is essential before delving into the foundations of physical theories.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that exploring the philosophy of science could provide the deeper understanding the original poster seeks.
  • One participant argues that the perception of reductionism may depend on the specific area of physics studied, citing condensed matter physics as an example where complexities and emergent properties are emphasized.
  • Another participant notes that similar issues may arise in chemistry and biology, emphasizing that all scientific fields require a progression from general knowledge to specialization.
  • There is a suggestion that in astrophysics, one can start with empirical models and gradually move to more mechanistic approaches, reflecting on the evolution of scientific understanding over time.
  • One participant disagrees with the notion that physics is inherently taught from a reductionist perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the teaching methods in physics and the nature of reductionism. There is no consensus on whether changing majors would resolve the original poster's concerns, as some argue that similar issues exist in other scientific disciplines.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the subjective nature of educational experiences and the varying interpretations of teaching methodologies in physics and other sciences. Limitations in understanding may stem from personal preferences and the specific focus of academic programs.

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Hello. I am currently a physics major and in my sophomore year at UT Austin. I have always been interested in physics, specifically astrophysics. But I have recently become discouraged. Not because of the rigor of physics but more because of the way it is taught and also what seems to me to be the reductionist point of view of physics. I feel like in college they just give you a bunch of problems to solve and I am more genuinely interested in the nature of the laws themselves.

I feel like physics is also near sighted in some ways. That is why I am debating changing my major to chemistry or biology. I feel chemistry and biology are more complex and want a broader scope of understanding.

Should I change my major? Have you ever felt this way about physics?
 
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YellowTang13 said:
I feel like in college they just give you a bunch of problems to solve and I am more genuinely interested in the nature of the laws themselves.

You need to take baby steps. Start by learning how to actually use the tools laid out by a physical theory and becoming adept at the calculations forming the core mechanics of the theory before attempting to delve into its foundations. If you don't learn how to solve textbook and homework problems then there is very little chance (pretty much naught) that you will be able to successfully tackle the foundations of any physical theory.

And no I have personally never felt this way.
 
Different major, solve different problems.

What sort of electives are you taking? If you want to know more about the nature of physical laws, perhaps you should take a course in the philosophy of science. Many great scientists, particularly physicists, not only did 'retail' science, but they wrote about the deeper meaning of science and what it means to study the universe. This might be what you are searching for.
 
YellowTang13 said:
Hello. I am currently a physics major and in my sophomore year at UT Austin. I have always been interested in physics, specifically astrophysics. But I have recently become discouraged. Not because of the rigor of physics but more because of the way it is taught and also what seems to me to be the reductionist point of view of physics. I feel like in college they just give you a bunch of problems to solve and I am more genuinely interested in the nature of the laws themselves.

I feel like physics is also near sighted in some ways. That is why I am debating changing my major to chemistry or biology. I feel chemistry and biology are more complex and want a broader scope of understanding.

Should I change my major? Have you ever felt this way about physics?

You also need to consider that maybe this "reductionist" point of view that you've been taught is a function of the subject area that you chose! Those of us who went through a condensed matter physics program certainly do not feel that way, where complexities and emergent properties are the essence of the physics that we deal with every single day.

Zz.
 
YellowTang13 said:
Hello. I am currently a physics major and in my sophomore year at UT Austin. I have always been interested in physics, specifically astrophysics. But I have recently become discouraged. Not because of the rigor of physics but more because of the way it is taught and also what seems to me to be the reductionist point of view of physics. I feel like in college they just give you a bunch of problems to solve and I am more genuinely interested in the nature of the laws themselves.

I feel like physics is also near sighted in some ways. That is why I am debating changing my major to chemistry or biology. I feel chemistry and biology are more complex and want a broader scope of understanding.

Should I change my major? Have you ever felt this way about physics?
One will probably find the same issues in chemistry and biology. In any scientific field, there is a lot of information to learn. One usually starts generally, and over time one evolves to specialize.

In astrophysics, one could concentrate on stellar astrophysics (or astrodynamics), and then even specialize in a class of star. One may start with empirical models, because they work to an extent, then gradually move to more mechanistic models. Empirical models were largely the consequence of limited computing power in past decades.

I would disagree that physics is viewed (or taught) with a reductionist perspective.
 

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