Physics & Math for 15-Year-Olds in 10th Grade

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the educational experiences of 10th-grade students in physics and mathematics, particularly comparing curricula in India and the United States. Participants express feelings of inadequacy and concern about the perceived differences in educational rigor and content coverage between the two countries.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants feel behind in their education compared to peers in other countries, particularly the U.S., and question what foundational knowledge is expected for someone interested in physics and mathematics.
  • It is noted that in the U.S., physics is typically taught in the 11th or 12th grade, and some students may not take it at all during high school, which complicates comparisons across educational systems.
  • One participant suggests that a 10th-grade student in India might not be exposed to physics until later grades, implying that self-study may be necessary for those eager to learn more.
  • Another participant argues that the physics education in India at the high school level is superior to that in the U.S., particularly at the college level, and provides a detailed outline of the Indian Certificate of Secondary Education (ICSE) syllabus for physics.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of high school education in the U.S., with suggestions to pursue advanced theoretical physics through recommended reading or to focus on basic physics concepts through textbooks.
  • A participant shares personal experience transitioning from the Indian CBSE board to a private school in the U.S., emphasizing the perceived ease of the U.S. physics curriculum compared to the rigorous Indian curriculum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the quality and rigor of physics education in different countries, with no consensus on which system is superior. There is agreement that educational experiences vary significantly based on location and individual circumstances.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific educational boards and curricula, highlighting differences in content and expectations. Some statements reflect personal experiences that may not be universally applicable.

  • #31
Justin Lazear said:
AP Physics isn't necessary for success. As I mentioned before, usually all it does is teach you a bit of technique. And, as I mentioned before, the technique isn't particularly difficult anyway. By the time the difficult stuff comes up, it's out of the realm of AP Physics anyway.

Then again, I'm only familiar with the physics programs of two universities, so I could be mistaken. I think I'll add the big qualifier "If you happen to show up at Caltech or ASU," before everything.

--J


AP Physics is meant to be equivalent to a first year physics course. And in my experience it is mostly. My physics classes now are some what more rigorous, but its the same material.
 

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