Physics or Astronomy undergraduate program?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a physics undergraduate program or an astronomy program, particularly in the context of a guaranteed slot in a physics program and the financial implications of relocating for an astronomy degree. Participants explore the relevance of each major to future studies and career paths in astrophysics and related fields.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in particle physics, mechanics, astrophysics, and electromagnetism, suggesting these areas favor a physics major.
  • Another participant advises against specializing too much as an undergraduate, noting that a physics degree can facilitate entry into astronomy graduate programs, while an astronomy degree may present challenges for entering other branches of physics.
  • Concerns about the financial burden of relocating for an astronomy program are raised, with a suggestion that avoiding debt is advantageous for focusing on studies.
  • A participant questions whether studying physics would put them at a disadvantage when specializing in astronomy later compared to those who majored in astronomy.
  • Another participant mentions that majoring in physics may improve performance on the Physics Graduate Record Examination (PGRE), potentially enhancing chances for admission into better graduate programs.
  • It is noted that some institutions may offer a concentration in astronomy within a physics major, allowing for flexibility in course selection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of choosing a physics versus an astronomy major, particularly regarding career opportunities and graduate school admissions. There is no consensus on which path is definitively better.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of course diversity and the potential for discovering new interests, while others emphasize the financial considerations and the impact of age on social dynamics in university settings.

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I got a guaranteed slot in a university that offers a physics program but I'm doubtful if that is the right choice. I could take this physics program or I could maybe move to another city and study astronomy there.

I'm interested in particle physics, mechanics, astrophysics and electromagnetism, all of these seems to favor a undergraduate program in physics.

What should I major in? Does it even matter which one I pick?

Always wanted to be an astronomer, problem is it's quite expensive having to relocate to another city as opposed to studying in my home, and I already have a guaranteed slot so that is good.

Any thoughts? I could you give the program courses if you want to but it's in Swedish.

I did study the physics program but dropped out due to medical reasons, so I have the chance to return now in fall, that might give me a huge advantage because I know what to expect, problem is I will be 20 and feel older than others.
 
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I can't speak directly to the Swedish system, but as a general rule, my experience is that you should avoid specializing too much as an undergraduate. It's very straight forward to get into astronomy for graduate school with an undergraduate degree in physics. You may encounter some difficulties if you try to get into a different branch of physics for graduate school with an undergraduate degree in astronomy. (In general I wouldn't expect these to be insurmountable. Astronomy degrees tend to be physics-heavy.) Given the choice, more diversity in your education is better. You might even discover something else you love, but don't even know about yet.

The cost issue would sway me largely in favour of the physics program. The more debt you can avoid, the better. Less time working in a part-time job to pay for school mean more time to dedicate to your studies too.

With respect to being twenty... don't worry about it at all. You're a couple of years older than your classmates. I know at that age it feels like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, it really isn't. And you can always look for people closer to your own age for socialization if that's an issue.
 
Choppy said:
I can't speak directly to the Swedish system, but as a general rule, my experience is that you should avoid specializing too much as an undergraduate. It's very straight forward to get into astronomy for graduate school with an undergraduate degree in physics. You may encounter some difficulties if you try to get into a different branch of physics for graduate school with an undergraduate degree in astronomy. (In general I wouldn't expect these to be insurmountable. Astronomy degrees tend to be physics-heavy.) Given the choice, more diversity in your education is better. You might even discover something else you love, but don't even know about yet.

The cost issue would sway me largely in favour of the physics program. The more debt you can avoid, the better. Less time working in a part-time job to pay for school mean more time to dedicate to your studies too.

With respect to being twenty... don't worry about it at all. You're a couple of years older than your classmates. I know at that age it feels like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, it really isn't. And you can always look for people closer to your own age for socialization if that's an issue.
I'm 1 year older. If I study physics, will I be lagging behind if I decide to specialize in astronomy compared to those that picked astronomy as undergraduate?

Is astronomy more limited regarding careers too?
 
I think if you major in physics, you'll do better on the PGRE which will better your odds into getting a better astro or physics graduate program. At least at ASU, the astronomy program leaves you very weak in the mathematics and barely skims the surface of quantum.
 
If you take some electives in astronomy you should be fine coursewise. Some schools in the US for example actually have physics and astronomy in the same department (usually for historical reasons) and/or may have a concentration on astronomy within the physics major rather than a separate astronomy major.
 

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