Physics, or Theoretical Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between studying Physics and Theoretical Physics at university, particularly at Trinity College in Dublin. Participants explore the nature of the courses, their content, and implications for future studies and career paths.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that at the undergraduate level, Physics and Theoretical Physics are essentially the same, with no distinct major for Theoretical Physics.
  • Others clarify that there are indeed separate courses available, with Theoretical Physics focusing more on mathematics and theoretical concepts, while Physics includes more hands-on laboratory work.
  • A participant notes that the last year of the Theoretical Physics course may involve more mathematics and less experimental work, suggesting a potential shift in focus compared to a standard Physics degree.
  • There is a discussion about the ease of changing courses, with some suggesting that starting in Theoretical Physics may offer more flexibility in switching to a different program later.
  • Concerns are raised about the mathematical preparedness required for Theoretical Physics, with participants questioning the implications for future career opportunities based on the chosen path.
  • One participant emphasizes that both theoretical and experimental research are considered cutting edge, challenging the notion that one is more advanced than the other.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for Theoretical Physics due to its focus on fundamental concepts, suggesting that it may provide a deeper understanding of physics principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and distinction between Physics and Theoretical Physics, with no consensus reached on the implications of choosing one over the other. Some agree on the general content differences, while others challenge the framing of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different educational systems, which may influence their perspectives on course structure and content. There is also uncertainty regarding the specific curriculum at Trinity College and how it compares to other institutions.

Joza
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I am not sure whether I want to study Physics, or Theoretical Physics at University.

What is the main difference? The courses are at Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland, if you guys want to have a look at their basic overview of them.

I would just like to hear some experienced opinions.
 
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If you're talking about undergraduate education, they're the same. There's no "theoretical physics" major.

- Warren
 
Yea, I've just finished high school.

No, there are two separate courses. You can choose Theoretical Physics, or Physics through a common entry into Science.
 
chroot said:
If you're talking about undergraduate education, they're the same. There's no "theoretical physics" major.

- Warren

There is at some universities over here. The first two years are basically an undergrad physics degree, and the final year is purely theoretical, with labs replaced by more maths heavy courses.
 
Joza said:
Yea, I've just finished high school.

No, there are two separate courses. You can choose Theoretical Physics, or Physics through a common entry into Science.

Oh you're talking about just taking single classes, rather than entire programs of study.

If you just finished high school, do you think you're prepared for either of these classes?

- Warren
 
Joza said:
Yea, I've just finished high school.

No, there are two separate courses. You can choose Theoretical Physics, or Physics through a common entry into Science.

I've had a look at the website, and it seems that the last year of the theoretical physics course is administered in part by the school of maths. From my experience, it is far easier to change course from a "joint" degree to the main school, than to change from a straight course to a joint degree. Thus, if you're not sure, then I'd apply for the theoretical course, and make your mind up when you get there. It might be worth sending an email to check whether it is possible to change if the need should arise, since I'mk not familiar with the Irish system.. I'm just basing my judgement on the English system.

On making your mind up for one or the other, have you read through the two course descriptions? How good is your maths, as it'll need to be stronger to study theoretical? Also, do you have any career plans for the future? These will all play a part in your final decision.
 
Well to be honest, I have always just had a fascination with with Physics in general, but more with the cutting edge you know?

I would probably go on for a further degree, and perhaps would like to remain in the Physics world, perhaps on research?

I understand that Theoretical is more math based, but is there any difference in the subject matter (s?) taught, or career opportunities available?
 
Just for your own "cultural" benefit, theoretical physics is a part of "physics". So your title for this thread doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe you are trying to differentiate between theoretical physics and experimental physics. However, both are inside of Physics.

As you progress even more, you'll start learning about the different subject areas in physics. Just don't make the same mistake in distinguishing Physics and "solid state physics", for example.

Zz.
 
Just for some clarification in case there is confusion...

Just because its 'theoretical physics' doesn't means its more cutting edge. ALL research being done, experimental or theoretical, is cutting edge. Thats what makes it research. If it was known already, what's the point? ;)

Good luck in whatever you choose
 
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Yea, I realize the name is a bit silly. Its just that one course is specifically called theoretical.

So, I guess the main difference is, that there is more emphasis on "hands on" experience with the standard Physics course, but the other is more "black-board and chalk" math orientated?

So, I'm presuming my options will not be limited after my degree by which ever I pick?
 
  • #11
I'm a first year undergraduate at Uni of Manchester, doing Physics With Theoretical... if you're a fan of laboratory work, then don't opt for theoretical, otherwise i'd really recommend it... we look at a course in Lagrangian dynamics next semester, whereas the straight physics students probably look very little at what i'd call the FUNDAMENTALS or what seems to me the ROOT LAYERS of physics... it just seems to me that i'd be missing out on some of more important, thought admittedly more difficult, stuff if i hadn't opted for theoretical
 

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