Physics problem to fine average force

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The problem involves calculating the average force acting on a dummy during a crash test scenario where a car collides with a wall. The context includes kinematics and dynamics principles, specifically relating to motion and forces during deceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find acceleration and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. There are questions about the correct application of formulas and the inclusion of mass in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested using energy methods or kinematics to approach the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the kinematic equations and Newton's second law to find the average force, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note confusion regarding the inclusion of mass in the calculations and the correct interpretation of the kinematic equations. There is a mention of the need for further clarification on the formulas being used.

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A set of crash tests consists of running a test car moving at a speed of 11 m/s (24.2 m/h) into a solid wall. Strapped securely in an advanced seat belt system, a 57 kg (125.4 lbs) dummy is found to move a distance of 0.81 m from the moment the car touches the wall to the time the car is stopped. Calculate the size of the average force which acts on the dummy during that time.

I do not get this question, i have been working on it for days but i am extremely frustrated

I used the equation
v^2 + u^2 = 2as

where v = final velocity, u = initial velocity, a = acceleration, s = displacement.
so i said
0^2 + 11^2=2(a)(0.81)
It gave me the wrong answer.
but i think that i have to use mass, and my teacher has not shown me a formula in which mass is included
 
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Show what you've done and where you are stuck.

Hints: You can solve this using energy methods (consider the work done by the wall) or kinematics (find the average acceleration).
 
can you answer it now .
 
rachels5 said:
I used the equation
v^2 + u^2 = 2as
That should be v^2 = u^2 + 2as.

where v = final velocity, u = initial velocity, a = acceleration, s = displacement.
so i said
0^2 + 11^2=2(a)(0.81)
It gave me the wrong answer.
That will give you the acceleration. Then use Newton's 2nd law to find the net force. (Yes, you'll need the mass.)
 

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