Physics question - Forces on a mass on horizontal surface

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 2.5 kg mass on a horizontal surface subjected to an applied force of 150 N and a frictional force of 100 N. Participants are exploring how to determine the work done on the mass given the forces acting on it.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the direction of the applied force and the need for a diagram. Some express uncertainty about the equations needed to solve the problem, while others suggest that additional information, such as distance or time, is necessary to calculate work.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the lack of information in the problem statement. Some have attempted to apply relevant equations, while others emphasize the need for more context to arrive at a solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted absence of information regarding the distance the force is applied or the time duration, which is critical for calculating work done. Participants highlight that without this information, the problem cannot be fully resolved.

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Physics question -- Forces on a mass on horizontal surface

Homework Statement


A 2.5 kg mass at rest on a horizontal surface is acted upon by an applied horizontal force of 150 N. A frictional force of 100 N acts on the mass. How much work is done on the mass?


Homework Equations


I'm not too sure if any equation would be used.


The Attempt at a Solution


Again, I am not sure how to answer this question. I think that the work would be 0 but I am not sure.
 
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Hi! Which direction is the horizontal force moving this mass. Can you draw the diagram (if any)?
 
Hi suzy123,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

In addition to the previous comment, there seems to be information missing in the problem statement. Does the original problem statement tell you how far the mass moves, or the distance to which the force is applied? Or maybe the time period that the force is applied? (Anything along those lines?)

Do you know if it is acceptable to give your answer in terms of some other variable like distance traveled or time?
 
Hi there!

This is all of the information i was given for this question and no diagram was included.
 
Different tack: what equations would you have at hand in case we manage to convince you that, in order to come up with a quantitative answer, you do need to make use of some equations nevertheless ?
 
suzy123 said:

Homework Statement


A 2.5 kg mass at rest on a horizontal surface is acted upon by an applied horizontal force of 150 N. A frictional force of 100 N acts on the mass. How much work is done on the mass?


Homework Equations


I'm not too sure if any equation would be used.


The Attempt at a Solution


Again, I am not sure how to answer this question. I think that the work would be 0 but I am not sure.

suzy123 said:
Hi there!

This is all of the information i was given for this question and no diagram was included.

You need to show some effort of your own, or this thread will be deleted. Our Homework Help rules here on the PF require that you show some effort on your question, and that you do the bulk of the work.
 
I made another attempt at the question.
so I used the f=ma formula. I substituted (150 N-100 N) for f, 2.5 kg for m and I solved for a. I got 20 m/s^2 for a. would I use one of the accelerated motion formulas to possibly solve for d? then substitute it into the w=fd formula?
 
Well I'm not sure how to find the work honestly. Typically the equation w=F*d, however you aren't given distance or time. So I guess you could use (not sure though) the equation v=at. so it seems you have right answer for a, then just equate d=v and you should have a work eq. with t.
 
suzy123 said:

Homework Statement


A 2.5 kg mass at rest on a horizontal surface is acted upon by an applied horizontal force of 150 N. A frictional force of 100 N acts on the mass. How much work is done on the mass?
The information given are mass,and force.
Even though mass and force gives acceleration,
none of the four kinematics equations will be useful here.
##v=u+at## -
##S=\frac{1}{2}(u+v)t##
##S=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2##
##v^2=u^2+2as##

The equations require at least time to be given(to find distance) or distance to find work done.
So this question lacks enough information.
It's like saying what is the work done if a force of 1N acts on a mass of 1kg.We don't know the distance the forces acted.It can be 100m,1000m or 10^100m.We don't know.
 

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