Physics Spring Question: Block Position with Applied Force of 2.8 N

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The problem involves a block on a frictionless surface attached to a spring, with a given spring constant. An applied force stretches the spring until the block reaches a stopping point. Participants are exploring the relationship between the applied force, spring potential energy, and the position of the block.

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  • Participants discuss using Hooke's Law to find the position of the block but express confusion over the results. Some suggest calculating the work done by the applied force and equating it to the spring potential energy. Others raise questions about the mass of the block and its effect on the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using the work-energy theorem and the relationship between kinetic energy and spring potential energy. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are considering the implications of the block's mass and the nature of the stopping point, which is not the equilibrium position. There is an emphasis on understanding the energy transformations involved in the system.

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The block in Figure 7-11a lies on a horizontal frictionless surface and is attached to the free end of the spring, with a spring constant of 40 N/m. Initially, the spring is at its relaxed length and the block is stationary at position x = 0. Then an applied force with a constant magnitude of 2.8 N pulls the block in the positive direction of the x axis, stretching the spring until the block stops.
Assume that the stopping point is reached.


(a) What is the position of the block?

please someone help me with this problem, its been so annoying. i figured you were to use Hooke's Law to solve it, plugging in 2.8 N for the force and 40 N/m for k. doing this gives you .07. however, the answer is not .07 because it tells me i am wrong when i put that in. does anyone know where i went wrong?
 
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Find the point where the work done by the applied force equals the spring potential energy. (Note that this is not the equilibrium point, where the net force on the block is zero. It is only a momentary stopping point as the block reverses direction.)
 
Use the work energy theorem:

\Delta W = \Delta E_{Kinetic} + \Delta E_{Spring Potantial} + \Delta E_{Gravity} + \Delta E_{Friction}

As Doc Al alwready said, in this case, you only have to deal with:
\Delta W = \Delta E_{Spring Potantial}

You know the rest.

Regards,

Nenad
 
rulers14 said:
The block in Figure 7-11a lies on a horizontal frictionless surface and is attached to the free end of the spring, with a spring constant of 40 N/m. Initially, the spring is at its relaxed length and the block is stationary at position x = 0. Then an applied force with a constant magnitude of 2.8 N pulls the block in the positive direction of the x axis, stretching the spring until the block stops.
Assume that the stopping point is reached.


(a) What is the position of the block?
Your answer would be correct if the block had 0 mass. What is the mass of the block?

The block acquires kinetic energy until the applied force = kx (x = F/k), then it loses KE until it is all converted to spring potential energy. It is that KE (at x=F/k) that you need to calculate.

ma = F - kx

KE_{max} = \int_{0}^{F/k}madx

See if you can work it out from there.

Edit: You can think of the distance x = F/k as an equilibrium position and the KE of the block at this equilibrium position is eventually converted to spring potential energy at maximum extension (the system oscillates - similar to a block hanging from the spring with mg being the applied force).

AM
 
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