Pick A Better National Tree Than US Oak

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the designation of the National Tree of the United States, specifically debating whether the Oak is the best choice or if other trees from different countries might be more suitable. Participants explore various trees from around the world, considering their characteristics and cultural significance.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a preference for the Oak, citing its beauty and historical significance in the US.
  • Others argue that the Oak is overrated due to its properties during drying, suggesting alternatives like the Sugar Maple or the Sequoiadendron giganteum.
  • Lebanon's Cedar is mentioned as a notable tree, with some participants highlighting its presence on the national flag.
  • The Banyan Tree from India is proposed as a worthy alternative, accompanied by images.
  • One participant humorously describes the Agathis australis of New Zealand, emphasizing its ancient lineage and unique characteristics.
  • There is a mention of the bristlecone pine, with some participants advocating for it despite its lack of national designation.
  • Speculation arises about the genetic engineering of bristlecone pines for use in construction materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a better national tree than the Oak, with multiple competing views and preferences expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the historical significance and characteristics of the trees mentioned are not universally accepted, and the discussion reflects a variety of personal opinions and cultural references.

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There are a lot of different kinds of trees in the US that we haven't driven to extinction yet. The Oak, one of these uneradicateable weeds, has been designated by act of Congress as the National Tree of the US. This is a wise choice in my opinion. My living room floor is covered with a beautiful parquet of old growth White Oak and looks fabulous. Given the recent trend on GD of allowing other countries' symbols to be spoken of in the same breath with those of the US, I thought I would open this up to the board. Can you think of a National Tree of some other two bit foreign country better than that of my dear beloved home?
 
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Oak is overrated, it bends and splits easily during drying. Your Northerly Neighbours made an excellent choiche with the Sugar maple. I'd go for the unique Sequoiadendron giganteum

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Lebanon has its cedars.
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India - the Banyan Tree

http://www.plantatreelovetheplanet.com/images/banyan-tree_zf0i.jpg

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http://www.bangalorewalks.com/images/banyan1.jpg
 
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I like the ancient and devious Jurassic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agathis_australis" s of New Zealand, who got the jump on the uppity newfangled angiosperms who had the temerity to evolve more advanced means of propagation by figuring out how to poison the ground around them with a poison only they are immune to. It's sort of the Dread Pirate Roberts of trees.

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jimmysnyder said:
… The Oak, one of these uneradicateable weeds, has been designated by act of Congress as the National Tree of the US.

Can you think of a National Tree of some other two bit foreign country better than that of my dear beloved home?

I think the Oak has been the national tree of England :rolleyes: since time immemorial, see http://www.icons.org.uk/introduction for example.

When Britannia ruled the waves, it was in ships of good English oak! :smile:

But if I have to make an unbiased choice, I'll agree with turbo-1, and go for …

:-p Cedar of Lebanon! :-p

… good enough to be on the national flag! :smile:
 
So I googled "best bonsai" for some other suggestions and -believe it or not- this page was #11 on the first page.
 
tiny-tim said:
I think the Oak has been the national tree of England :rolleyes: since time immemorial, see http://www.icons.org.uk/introduction for example.

When Britannia ruled the waves, it was in ships of good English oak! :smile:

But if I have to make an unbiased choice, I'll agree with turbo-1, and go for …

:-p Cedar of Lebanon! :-p

… good enough to be on the national flag! :smile:

But you're not Libanese, are you? :rolleyes:

Perhaps go for the American unique bristlecone pine instead

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Oh, those are bristlecone pines... I think I read that someone is trying to genetically engineer a variety of bristlecone pines so that the fibers from them can be used to strengthen concrete the same way fiberglass is used.

Madagascar Baobab:

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Soon to result in the evolution of winged monkeys.
 
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I'd still stick with bristlecones

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I would nominate the bristlecone, too, Andre, except it's not a national tree, and the only state to designate it a state tree (Nevada) makes it share the honor with another species.
 

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