Pick adviser based on matching research interest vs. adviser competence

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for selecting a PhD advisor in the context of condensed matter theory (CMT) versus other fields like particle theory. Participants explore the implications of matching research interests with advisor competence, considering factors such as mentorship style, research output, and personal career goals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for CMT due to potential financial benefits and industry opportunities, while also considering the importance of advisor competence.
  • Another participant emphasizes the dual importance of research interest and advisor character, noting the potential for both positive and negative experiences with advisors.
  • A participant shares their past negative experience with a hands-off advisor, highlighting the need for guidance and the desire to improve research skills regardless of the specific research topic.
  • Another participant agrees that an inspiring advisor is crucial, suggesting that the flexibility in research topics allows for exploration across different fields, which could enhance understanding and creativity.
  • There is a suggestion that graduate school experiences do not necessarily confine one to a specific field, as knowledge from one area can inform work in another.
  • Participants discuss the importance of choosing an advisor whose advising style aligns with individual needs, regardless of the research area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the importance of advisor competence versus research interest, indicating that there is no clear consensus. Some prioritize advisor character and mentorship style, while others focus on aligning with specific research interests.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the decision-making process, including personal experiences and the varying impacts of advisor styles on research success. There are also considerations regarding financial implications and career trajectories that remain unresolved.

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Hi all, I intend to go into some form of condensed matter theory physics after I finish my 1st year of PhD studies (I'll finish that this coming May). I have met some CMT profs who are proficient at what they do, are intent on researching, etc., and some profs who seem to be either a) rather lethargic in what they do, as they are already tenured and needn't stress terribly to move forward b) buried in administrative duties, and don't end up cranking out much. One guy was my ideal choice: 1) straightforward and didn't beat around the bush; to the point and not passive-aggressive 2) high volume of work output, but he didn't want to take me on.

Now my question: should I limit myself to just the CMT people? I mean, should I look at *all* professors? One guy I know of is said to be a fantastic teacher, brilliant, prolific, not tied down to any sort of family of his own, and pretty much someone I could learn tons from; the problem being is that he's in particle theory, not CMT. In other words, should I pick "competence as an adviser" over "match to my tentative research interests"?

P.S. My motivation for CMT is that there's more money in that field, and I could more easily default to industry if things didn't pan out. I've heard the standard speech that you should pick what you love vs. money, but my response to that is that some measure of compromise to reality must be made: money's tight in our country as well as in my physics department, and CMT is much closer to what I want to do than many of my previous jobs, which included working in a factory full of smoke, furnaces, and heavy jagged metal.
 
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Your advisor can either be your mentor or your tormentor. You probably also heard that a lot, but it's really true!

Your advisor can either torment you by not being involved in your research. But he can also torment you by forcing you do work in an area you don't care about.

I'd say both research interest as the character of your advisor are as important. I wouldn't know what to choose if I had to.

Sorry for not being helpful.
 
Well, I've done research before and sucked at it (previous adviser was pretty hands-off), so I guess I feel extra pressure to pick an adviser who can skillfully guide me. I kind of could care less *what* I'm researching, I just want to learn how to be good at research, period.
 
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Well, I've done research before and sucked at it (previous adviser was pretty hands-off), so I guess I feel extra pressure to pick an adviser who can skillfully guide me. I kind of could care less *what* I'm researching, I just want to learn how to be good at research, period.

You're absolutely right there. In my experience it is vastly more important to choose an advisor that inspires you work hard and think creatively. Of course research topics are a consideration, but in theory there's always the opportunity to put your fingers in a lot of different things, especially if you've got the mind for it.

Also, remember that what you work on in graduate school is not necessarily going to nail you into a specific field for all eternity. My undergrad advisor got his PhD in GR and now works in quantum information! Especially in theory you have the opportunity to jump around. Plus you never know when knowledge from one area of physics will bleed over into another; you may find that particle theory gives you a fresh perspective on certain problems in condensed matter!

The bottom line is that graduate school is hard, and you want to make it as easy on yourself as possible. Part of this would be choosing an advisor who's advising STYLE works best for you, irrespective of research area.
 

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