What is conceivable, is to describe the nucleon as a chiral soliton in a pionic field, where the scalar and pseudoscalar Goldstone meson are treated as if elementary. Please note that this is a (convenient, powerful, elegant, appealing ?) model which neither ignores its own approximations (those fields are not fundamental) nor can not be at least partially justified from a more fundamental point of view. In particular, it attempts to treat spontaneous chiral symmetry breaking effectively.