Pivoting Stick Angular Acceleration and Force Calculation

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The problem involves a uniform stick pivoted at one end, requiring the calculation of its angular acceleration and the force exerted by the pivot immediately after release. The context is within the subject area of rotational dynamics.

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  • Participants discuss the application of torque and rotational inertia in calculating angular acceleration. There is a question regarding the correct formula for rotational inertia of a thin rod about one end. Additionally, there is exploration of the force exerted by the pivot and its relation to the stick's acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to derive the angular acceleration and force, with some participants providing corrections and alternative approaches. There is acknowledgment of the need to apply Newton's second law to analyze the forces acting on the stick.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the pivot is frictionless and are exploring the implications of this on the calculations. There is also a reference to the potential confusion regarding the treatment of the stick's mass distribution.

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[SOLVED]Pivoting Stick

Homework Statement


A uniform stick of mass M = 1.3 kg and length L = 2.3 m is pivoted at one end. It is held horizontally and released. Assume the pivot is frictionless. Find the angular acceleration (in rad/s) of the stick immediately after it is released.

Continuation: Find the magnitude in Newtons of the force Fo exerted on the stick by the pivot immediately after it is released.

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Homework Equations


torque=Ia



The Attempt at a Solution



I set T=Ia
t=1.15(1.3)(9.81)=14.67
I=mr^2=1.3(1.15)^2=1.72

14.67=1.72a
a=8.53rad/s(s)

It tells me that is the wrong answer

For the second part, shouldn't the force be 0?(0is not the right answer)
 
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anap40 said:
I set T=Ia
t=1.15(1.3)(9.81)=14.67
OK.
I=mr^2=1.3(1.15)^2=1.72
Not OK. What's the rotational inertia of a thin rod about one end? (When analyzing rotational motion, you can't treat an extended body as if its mass were concentrated at its center of mass.)
 
Ah, thanks, using I =1/3mL^2 I get the correct answer.

So for the second part is the force=9.81(1.3)-6.39(1.15)(1.3)

or in other words the force on the rod it it was not connecting to a pivot point, minus the acceleration of the rod while it is connected to the pivot point?

EDIT: i just put in my answer as caclulated above and it was correct.

thanks Doc Al for the Help
 
Cool. The way to think of the second part is just to apply Newton's 2nd law to the vertical direction:
F - mg = ma
(where a is the acceleration of the center of mass, which you can figure out from the first answer)
 

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